lundi 11 juillet 2016

New here

Hello everyone,

I'm new to this, but I'm excited to learn more. I'm not sure of my type. I'm afraid I lack the self awareness to type myself, but I'm working on it. About me: I've had several careers, but right now I'm a sahm. I'm hoping to be a teacher once my kids are old enough to go to school. I have lots of hobbies. I play piano and ukulele. I crochet. I recently started long distance running, and I love it.

That's all for now. I look forward to meeting all of you in the forums.

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dimanche 3 juillet 2016

Miranda Kerr

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samedi 2 juillet 2016

ESFJ (MBTI) vs ESFj (Socionics)

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Marie Curie

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VI & a Questionnaire

VI for fun and curiosity...and a questionnaire to go along with it. VI my husband too?
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1)What is beauty? What is love?

Beauty and Love are both like internal alignments with something that represents that which is important to someone, like an idealization.

Beauty is what is pleasing to the eye, but there is also beauty that lies underneath the surface and can come from an idea. External and internal beauty can align, internal beauty can leak through to make the exterior beautiful, but corruption of the inside leaks to the outside.

Love is feeling deeply for someone or something, like a strong internal conviction to something that brings about things like commitment and sacrifice.

2) What are your most important values?

Understanding, Respect, Patience, Curiosity, Loyalty, Commitment... Probably more, but I don't sit around thinking about what my values are. I try to live them.

3) Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

I used to be devoutly religious until I was around 15. I went to a private Christian school. I started around 15 to get curious about different religions and started reading books on religions. I found a lot of parallels and decided to keep an open mind around that time. Unfortunately I also lost my faith and never got it back. I say unfortunately because I wish I still had faith. But I don't consider myself religious, agnostic, atheist or any of those. I've come to find I don't care for labels like that. I consider myself curious and like learning about things revolving around spirituality and religion. I even thought about majoring in something to do with religion at one point. Basically, Robert Langdon has my dream job.

4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

War is inevitable. There are too many people with differing opinions or agendas to prevent it. People have had conflict and wars since the beginning and humanity hasn't learned anything from it that will stop it. It's simply human nature to want to survive and to ensure the survival of things that they believe in or care about.

Power is having influence. In order to have influence one must, at least initially, have respect. I don't really think about power for myself, but I do recognize it.

5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

I like talking about why people do the things they do. I'm not much of a conversationalist, really, not unless I feel like talking about something. I don't like pointless chit chat.

I have many interests, some come and go. I'm an obsessive googler. I love books, traveling, history... Just whatever catches my attention.

As for why...

Anytime I have a question, Google is my go to. I hate when people just don't google. If its at your disposal, it's there waiting for your every question...

I've always loved reading. I have visited so many different places, met so many different people, and traveled in different times from books. It helps me understand people better, different times that people lived in. I've always wanted to own my own bookstore or, you know, live in a library.

Traveling, I like traveling for similar reasons as books. I like learning about cultures, religions, learning different things about people. I like people watching. I'm a creepy people watcher.

History, same reason. There are different time periods I favor, however. I like reading about the Tudors for example. I've always been interested in Ancient Egypt. I wanted to be an Egyptologist when I was little. It was an obsession of mine. I also really like Victoriana... the houses, the books, the clothes...just everything Victorian.

I also like architecture, art, antique-ing, mythology, and ghost hunting. Then there are those fleeting interests like graphology & existentialism.

6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

I've never really been interested in health/medicine other than what I feel I need to know for something. Like I think I'd really hate a job in nursing or anything in the medical field. It wouldn't suit me. I've never been focused on my body, really. I have a hard time living in the moment. I live in my head. Although I also have ADD, so it could be related to that. I feel like I have to forcefully clear my mind to pull myself into the now to experience what is around me and appreciate it and it doesn't last for long.

7. What do you think of daily chores?

I kind of hate them. I've come to realize that the less stuff I have, the less stuff I have to deal with, so I'm all for a minimalistic life style. Up until the time I have to get rid of stuff.

8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

My favorite movies ever are the LOTR movies, The Departed, The Beach, The Hours, Pride & Prejudice, Far From the Madding Crowd, A River Runs Through It..

My favorite books are Rebecca by Daphne DuMaurier, Pandora by Anne Rice, The Catcher in the Rye & Franny and Zooey by J.D. Salinger, The Light House by Virginia Woolf, The Fever series, The True Story of the Three Little Pigs...
I'm currently reading Six of Crows and I like it so far...

Favorite music...I really like classic rock and Folk music. Eagles, CCR, CSNY, Bob Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel. I also like alternative music. I like Staind quite a bit. I actually like quite a few new songs right now. I'm surprised. A lot are more folksy.

9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

Some things make me sad and some things make me happy. It's not the same all the time. I guess I find irony kind of funny. Just because I'm not crying doesn't mean I'm not sad and just because I'm not smiling doesn't mean I'm not happy, so idk....

10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

Honestly, no where completely...I've always felt kind of outcasted in a way. Like I don't really belong any where. With my husband I feel the most belonging, probably, because he's like my best friend. He's always accepted me the way I am.

11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

I don't stick up for myself is the biggest complaint I've heard. I take things too personally. I don't know how to take a joke. I don't know how to have fun. I have a hard time getting over things. I overthink things too much....

What I dislike about myself... I'm not very organized. I wish I was more and consistently motivated. I overthink things too much and don't know how to just enjoy the moment.

12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

I've been told by people I'm really good at reading people right away, what they're like. Or that I'm good at understanding people. Hubs said I'm compassionate. I don't know what I like about myself...I don't ever feel good enough, there's always something to be improved..

13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

Surviving. lol. I joke that I'm like Nicole Kidman's character, Ada, in Cold Mountain after her father dies. That would so be me. But really idk. I think I need a schedule and to stick with it because I get deterred a lot by things that interest me. My life seems more on track when I do that. When I get off track, everything starts falling apart. I also need someone to tell other people off for me, but husband does that. Everyone always says I need to assert myself but I don't like dealing with it.

14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

Yes and no. Life is a rut and I can't get out till I'm dead. But I'm never bored. If I don't like my situation, I just look at it in another way or make something of it, and it's not so bad.

15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

I don't really dislike or like any particular qualities. It more the person themselves. I've described it before, that people's qualities are like ingredients, and if arrogance were an ingredient, it would mesh well with other ingredients to make a final product that might be appealing to me and others not so much. It's more everything combined than the individual qualities. It's also the motivation. Two people can be arrogant but the motivation for the arrogance is different.

16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?


Idk. I met my husband when I was 15. He was the first person I ever really liked romantically. I never really had crushes. Anyway, he was really mature, responsible, confident, and smart, which I liked. He's also more outgoing than me and better with socializing, and I really needed someone like that. People have to drag me out of the house sometimes for socializing. It happens.

17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

Their safety. I have 3 kids and I'm paranoid about their safety. I also stress for them to follow what they love and that's what they'll be best at. My son loves rocks and finding cool ones, so I told him I bet he'd love geology and now he wants to be a geologist.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

If the person is a friend, I've already established that I like them, and I probably already knew they were like that to begin with, so I probably wouldn't be surprised. It really depends what it is what I would say....

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem?

I don't want to be a part of society....I'd like a cabin off the grid to escape to. I see people as a whole like a mob, yell fire and they all trample you.

20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

I'm picky about choosing my friends. They usually have a similar world view as me. Idk how I behave around them. I am just myself..


21. How do you behave around strangers?

I'm quiet with strangers. I like observing them a bit before I talk to them to get a sense of what they're like. I can usually tell if I'm going to click with someone or not right away. Some people I don't and I know them all my life and there's like this barrier between us. I don't usually make eye contact if I don't feel like talking to anyone, though.
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This person does not have an impulse to exert control over his/her environment and does not pay much heed to the opinion of the majority. The individual values his personal freedom highly and recognizes the right of others to express themselves freely. Depending on which TPE is leading, the desire to enjoy life and to take advantage of diverse opportunities is balanced with the need for self-preservation and protection from the unwanted influence of the outside world.

Dominance : Superid
Superid-types - Sergei Yesenin (IEI), Honoré de Balzac (ILI), Alexandre Dumas (SEI) and Jean Gabin (SLI) - are the bright exponents of the ‘Superid’ psychic energy which is characterised by the strong imagination, mystery of the night, physical relaxation and emotional calmness. Superid-types do not have a goal to impose their will to others. They do not tend to manage others and control the situation but at their best they are able to adjust themselves and bring subtle changes to the environment.. Superid-types know how to create the relaxed atmosphere of nonintrusive communication, soft touch, humour and comfort. Superid-types find themselves often sinking into their inner world, which serves them as a source of inspiration and creation. Their inner world is fragile and mobile. They subtly respond to the slightest changes in the surrounding environment. Knowing the sensibility of its nature, Superid-types spend a lot of time in loneliness, philosophising and thinking about themselves, their needs and trying to protect themselves from the destructive influence of the outside world. They are very perceptive!

Support: Id
Id-types - Aldous Huxley (IEE), Don Quixote (ILE), Napoleon I (SEE) and Georgy Zhukov (SLE) are the bright exponents of the psychic energy ‘Id’ which is characterised by a creative drive, changeability, flexibility, inexhaustible vivacity, and one’s potential whether apparent or hidden. Id-types are a source of inspiration for those who do not possess the power of optimism and zest for life. They share generously their interests and cheerfulness with others. Id-types are the people who occupy themselves with whatever is interesting and pleasurable to them. Their desires are variable, changeable, and adaptable to the current circumstances. Their main merit is that they can relatively quickly and without much effort get adapted to the new situation and switch from one activity to another if that is necessary. They are oriented to the external world and the things happening around them. As far as the world is full of various pleasures and wonderful events, their interest in life and willingness to enjoy new experiences remains much stronger than melancholy and short failures.

Neutrality: Superego
Superego-types (Fyodor Dostoyevsky (EII), Theodore Dreiser (ESI), Maximilien Robespierre (LII), Maxim Gorky (LSI) - are the bright representatives of the psychic energy ‘Superego’ which is characterised by clarity, sincerity, purity of thought, wisdom, morality, intellectual and spiritual pursuits. Superego-types are law-abiding, honest and responsible. They tend to fulfil the assigned work as high as diligently as possible so that they do not feel shameful in front of the others. When tackling an assignment, they go the extra mile to make sure their result is perfect. The quality of their work is their source of personal pride and critical self-esteem. As a rule, they are quiet, reserved, hard-working people who know how to behave in any situation. There is obvious integrity in their views and consistency in their judgements and deeds. They assert high moral values, keeping up an established order that is important for social conservation.

Deficiency: Ego
Ego-types - Hamlet (EIE), Victor Hugo (ESE), Jack London (LIE) and Stierlitz (LSE) -
are the bright exponents of the ‘Ego’ psychic energy which is characterised by excitement and attraction, masculinity and sexuality, physical strength, courage and confidence – all the qualities desirable for strong leadership. Ego-types are hard-working, possess great will power and intend to change the order of the surrounding environment at their sole discretion. As a rule, they are somewhat presumptuous and would not like to admit their weakness in public. It is important for them to have a goal and to feel that they are ready to deal with any obstacles in order to achieve that goal. Ego-types are good at managing other people, making decisions, taking responsibility and not giving up on failures. Such people, as a rule, are good at projecting an aura of confidence and giving the impression of a serious, business people.

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vendredi 1 juillet 2016

Wendy Williams

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Educational Books

I've been consuming books in recent times, often speed-reading them, getting suggestions from the Open Syllabus Explorer and my Canon of Humanity ebook project, and also getting through my wishlist that had been getting rather long (many of the books were ones I had shortlisted from my project).

This is a list of non-fiction books that I consider especially educational, informative, or otherwise present a new way of looking at things (at least from my perspective) (these are books I give 9 or 10 stars out of 10, or 5 stars on the goodreads scale). It would be good if others could also make suggestions!

Steven Johnson: Where Good Ideas Come From (The Natural History of Innovation)
Tim Harford: The Undercover Economist
Heath Chip: Made to Stick (Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die)
Daniel Kahneman: Thinking, Fast and Slow
Nate Silver: The Signal and the Noise (Why So Many Predictions Fail - But Some Don't)

Some others
(I put these separately because they cover more of a niche, or because they are "political" or contentious in some way, but I nonetheless think they provide food for thought)

Thomas Piketty: Capital in the Twenty-First Century (this introduced me to new ways of conceptualising economic matters)
Steven Pinker: The Better Angels of Our Nature (Why Violence Has Declined)
Paul Krugman: The Return of Depression Economics and the Crisis of 2008 (actually this is not really a "neutral" book: it just gives you Krugman's view on how economic markets should be managed & gives a history)

Textbooks
(Essentially. These books are often rather large, and often expensive in their most recent edition, although of course earlier editions will be cheaper. I think these cover their subjects well).

Neil Campbell: Biology
Theodore Brown: Chemistry (The Central Science)
David Halliday: Fundamentals of Physics
Elaine Marieb: Human Anatomy & Physiology

Marilyn Stokstad: Art History
David Bordwell: Film Art (An Introduction)
(I put the above two separate from the others as these are especially aesthetically pleasing and thus not anything like typical textbooks).

Stock market
Tweedy, Browne Company LLC: What Has Worked in Investing (pdf link)
James O'Shaughnessy: What Works On Wall Street
Christopher Browne: The Little Book of Value Investing
Charlie Munger: Poor Charlie's Almanack (The Wit and Wisdom of Charles T. Munger)

History
(in progress)

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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx

I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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Member Questionnaire (Jake7295)

Member Questionnaire 1 (Jake7295)

What is beauty? What is love?

Beauty is something that is pleasing to the eye, whether it be a person, place, or thing. Even concepts can be deemed beautiful, if it brings mutual understanding to a group. Love is the feeling of not wanting to let something, or someone go. You want to be attached to them, through the ups-and-downs, because you have faith that love will conquer all obstacles.

What are your most important values?

Understanding of one another, cooperation, and putting others before yourself.

Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

I don't have any spiritual/religious beliefs per se, I just think that inner peace comes from within, instead of without. If I did have any one spiritual/religious belief then it would probably be Buddhism, as that's the closest religious philosophy to my worldview. I don't like restraining myself to any one doctrine, and like to take each as their own in order to compare to one another.

Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

I want to think that war and militaries are unnecessary, however, I do recognize that the world has spiraled into chaos too far to completely give up fighting for one's cause. Power is to stand your ground and influence others, without being influenced.

What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

I love talking to other people; just hearing their stories and what their worldview is like is amazing. Everyone is different, everyone has their opinion, and we all fit into the celestial whole because of it. My interests are psychology, religion, and marketing. I love to learn and see how different things impact one another, and psychology (namely typology), helps me understand humanity, or at least be more accepting of others.

Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

Not really. I do the bare minimum, as in trying to workout a couple times a week, but if I have other things that need to be done and I don't have time for working out then I will put it on the back-burner.

What do you think of daily chores?

I think they're boring, and I'm a little messy in that regard. However, I do take my professional work fairly seriously (although I do tend to slack off (I'm typing this while at work)).

Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

I don't really watch movies or read books. I think the last book I read was Sam Harris' 'Guide to Spirituality without Religion', which introduced me to meditation but other than that, I really don't have an interest. I like to watch YouTube videos to get a good sense of other peoples' types and to compare them to myself and others, for knowledge purposes, but unfortunately I don't retain a lot of what I take in so I tend to forget things if I don't write them down (which I tend to forget to do anyways).

What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

Losing people who I care about makes me cry, and I try not to do that too often. Relationships happen, and unfortunately most of them end. Hanging out with friends makes me happy, and that's something I enjoy. Spending time with loved ones makes me appreciate them much more, rather than talking to them via electronics.

Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

I've always felt cast-out, and since I can remember I've always wanted to learn more about myself. I was taking Buzzfeed-esque quizzes when I was young, just to figure out who I was. So I guess it's more of a 'sense of belonging'.

What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

I'm lazy, and can be apathetic. I do understand this and I try not to be too lazy, but sometimes I just can't help it. I tend to put a lot of things off to the last minute as well, which I realized I need to break that habit.

What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

People say that I'm comforting, and I know how to make others laugh. I like this about myself, as well as understanding everything. This can turn into persuading people of things that are probably not true, just because I've built that reputation for myself.

In what areas of your life would you like help?

Keeping healthy and maintaining day-to-day work. Maybe forcing me to get off of my bed would be helpful as well.

Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

I don't feel stuck in a rut often, and when I do it takes me a while to recognize that I am. I feel like everything has worked itself out so far, and that's a 'spiritual belief' that I have, but as much as I don't like to rely on that idea, I tend to more often than I really should.

What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

I like people who can tell me what to do, and who can be my guide when it comes to health. My best friend is undoubtedly an ISTP, and he knows how to rearrange me and help me decide on a plan of action when he sees fit.

How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

Romance is amazing. It's something that I feel should be included in everyone's lives. With a little bit of playfulness/romance, then it will take your mind off of boring day-to-day work and get yourself and your S/O in that pure moment of clarity. I like playfulness, being cute, and being strong enough to hold their own in an argument. Not being able to bend so easily is something that I look for.

If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

I would want to be different from my parents, in the sense of being more understanding and taking into consideration what I grew up with in order to give my children a great time while living with me. I would see how they act and treat them how I would be like to be treated.

A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

I would want to understand where they are coming from, and see if there's any new information that I didn't consider that I can build into my current understanding. I would simply be curious about where they are coming from.

Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

I feel a little left out, so I tend to rely on what I see day to day. I don't tend to concern myself with the outside world that much, unless somebody presses me to pay attention to something. I think everyone plays a part in society, in some way. The first thing that comes to mind is the LGBTQ ordeal, but I don't see that as an everlasting problem.

How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

My friends just kind of fall into my lap and I like to be around them so I try to maintain some contact with them. I just be myself, knowing that they truly accept me for who I am.

How do you behave around strangers?

Friendly, maybe a little shy at first, but I like to initiate conversations with people. If it's somebody who I feel a connection with then I will try to maintain that relationship. Otherwise they are just another human being, that I'll still be nice to if they want to talk, but I wouldn't make it something to go out of my way for.

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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx

I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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PrankvsPrank/ BFvsGF?

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jeudi 30 juin 2016

John Berger

“When we read a story, we inhabit it. The covers of the book are like a roof and four walls. What is to happen next will take place within the four walls of the story. And this is possible because the story's voice makes everything its own.”

“You painted a naked woman because you enjoyed looking at her, put a mirror in her hand and you called the painting “Vanity,” thus morally condemning the woman whose nakedness you had depicted for your own pleasure.”

“Every city has a sex and an age which have nothing to do with demography. Rome is feminine. So is Odessa. London is a teenager, an urchin, and in this hasn’t changed since the time of Dickens. Paris, I believe, is a man in his twenties in love with an older woman.”

“A woman must continually watch herself. She is almost continually accompanied by her own image of herself. Whilst she is walking across a room or whilst she is weeping at the death of her father, she can scarcely avoid envisaging herself walking or weeping. From earliest childhood she has been taught and persuaded to survey herself continually. And so she comes to consider the surveyor and the surveyed within her as the two constituent yet always distinct elements of her identity as a woman. She has to survey everything she is and everything she does because how she appears to men, is of crucial importance for what is normally thought of as the success of her life. Her own sense of being in herself is supplanted by a sense of being appreciated as herself by another....

One might simplify this by saying: men act and women appear. Men look at women. Women watch themselves being looked at. This determines not only most relations between men and women but also the relation of women to themselves. The surveyor of woman in herself is male: the surveyed female. Thus she turns herself into an object -- and most particularly an object of vision: a sight.”

“The relation between what we see and what we know is never settled. Each evening we see the sun set. We know that the earth is turning away from it. Yet the knowledge, the explanation, never quite fits the sight.”

“To be desired is perhaps the closest anybody in this life can reach to feeling immortal.”

“The poverty of our century is unlike that of any other. It is not, as poverty was before, the result of natural scarcity, but of a set of priorities imposed upon the rest of the world by the rich. Consequently, the modern poor are not pitied...but written off as trash. The twentieth-century consumer economy has produced the first culture for which as beggar is a reminder of nothing.”

“What reconciles me to my own death more than anything else is the image of a place: a place where your bones and mine are buried, thrown, uncovered, together. They are strewn there pell-mell. One of your ribs leans against my skull. A metacarpal of my left hand lies inside your pelvis. (Against my broken ribs your breast like a flower.) The hundred bones of our feet are scattered like gravel. It is strange that this image of our proximity, concerning as it does mere phosphate of calcium, should bestow a sense of peace. Yet it does. With you I can imagine a place where to be phosphate of calcium is enough.”

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Compassion & the natural order

Compassion doesn't oppose natural order. Whoever wrote that is not smart enough to understand that nature doesn't operate in a linear and predictable ways. There are branches in the evolutionary process.

If it opposed natural order it would not exist today. Therefore it is perfectly natural. The order may be odd or uncanny but not opposed.

Everything arises as or out of necessity to thrive and flourish. Nothing in nature wants to die so it finds a way. Maybe compassion is that way.

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Sick of questionnaires. VI me.

Nevermind, saw the edit.

Yeah. I get really irritated when people willfully rebel against authority just for the heck of it or because they "hate the system", I find it disrespectful. However, I also won't blindly follow someone who was appointed to be in charge simply because of protocol or tradition. The person in question has to demonstrate that he has earned it, that he is worthy of being in charge. If you watch Game Of Thrones, I strongly relate to the wildlings' view on leadership, even if I don't necessarily like their way of life.

What are your thoughts from a pure VI perspective?

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Finally registered.

Sup boys, (very) long time lurker, first time poster. A friend of mine managed to convince me to make an account and start participating, because apparently I know some things.

Learned about MBTI in july/august 2014, quickly moved to socionics and Jungs original works as i found MB to be overly simplified. (everything MB did, socionics does better)
I also am an aspirant psychonaut.

PS. I tend to reffer to sociotypes by the 4 letter MBTI codes out of habit, so by INTP i mean INTj / LII / Ti-Ne type.

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mercredi 29 juin 2016

What's the difference between IEI and EIE?

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Hi,

Sorry for the very vague question, but I find it hard actually to differenciate both of these types. That's why I'm asking this questions to you, and hope you have some explanations or experiences.

Is the IEI less emotionally expressive than the EIE? Is EIE as "passive" as IEI?
What qualities would LSI prefer about EIE, compared to IEI?

How would an Fe dom with creative Ni think differently from Ni dom with Fe creative? Are they so different?
Would EIE take more initatives and be more aggressive?

I'm really wondering about that and hope you will answer to me. Thanks.

I'm not the person to answer this question, but I can't help myself. Whenever there's a chance to call EIEs the evil devils they are, I take it (only time I'm initiating anything).

Both types are emotionally expressive, just in different ways:

The EIEs I know are dramatic in their environment. They're the type to instigate fights between two people, then watch with popcorn. No, not all EIEs are this way *coughyoucantproveittomecough*. If you happen to watch many reality tv shows (housewives type crap), many of the women are EIEs.

The IEIs I know, including (mainly) myself, are dramatic in speech. I have a tendency to relay stories and experiences using words, tones etc that give the listener an emotional sense of what happened. People often tell me I tell exciting stories and they feel the emotion I felt, they have anticipation to find out what happened type crap. IEI would be like a musician whose lyrics are "deep" or are meant to evoke strong emotion (then again I'm speaking from an E4 perspective, so . . . ).

EIEs will take more initiative especially with their duals. IEIs not so much. However, subtype matters and Fe subtype of both EIE and IEI are more extroverted and initiative taking, especially in regards to interacting and engaging with other people.

From what I've noticed, Fe dom EIEs are dramatic/emotional in the immediate moment where the Ni dom is more calculating. Ni dom is more likely to plant seeds in people's mind that cause drama down the road. Fe, they want the sh*t to hit the fan immediately.

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Enneagram 4 Delta EII or IEE

Are there any enneagram 4 delta? ENFP or INFJ?

4 Individualist Melancholy(Fantasizing) Origin Having no identity or significance To be uniquely themselves To overuse imagination in search of self Envy Equanimity(Emotional Balance) 2 1
These traits seem very Beta in arrogance and self absorption, whilst EII can be idealistic they do not seem to be this self absorbed. IEE on the other hand have an upbeat energy in what ever they may focus on.

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mardi 28 juin 2016

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lundi 27 juin 2016

Learning about the INTP/ESFJ Dynamic

Greetings, folks . . .

I just joined with the hopes of better understanding the dynamics of an INTP / ENFJ relationship.

I'm on the Coast of Maine and am the INTP in the above relationship (which probably shouldn't be a surprise.)

Looking forward to learning more. Cheers.

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How to Tell if Static or Dyamic?

Static: something that is relatively consistent and regular. Example: we all have moods of the moment, depending on what's going on in our lives. But some of our values stay relatively consistent and that we turn to over and over again, across situations.

Dynamic: something that changes or evolves. There's inputs and outputs that affect the system or situation. If you learn to control/influence these, you can effect the system towards the way you want it to go.

In regards to Socionics, static/dynamic applies best to field (Xi) elements. (Static Xi= Fi/Ti; Dynamic Xi=Ni/Si)

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I have been asked to give a Eulogy a couple of times and I just couldn't do it so I refused, politely. I have spoken at wakes before but it was in a moment of pure inspiration to speak. In one case I felt like the person who had died was pushing me to speak up because they didn't feel others were being completely genuine in their sentiments. It was really surreal and I felt a bit self conscious after but not during. I kind of left everyone speechless and many came up to me after and said I did a great job and the deceased person would have been proud of me. I hope it never happens again. I was very freaked out by my own lack of filters in that situation. It was like the person who died took over and said what they wanted then silently retreated back into the ether.

I am sure your father would have been proud of you too.

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dimanche 26 juin 2016

EII working with others

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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx

I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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samedi 25 juin 2016

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[Socionics] Hi°

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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx

I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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vendredi 24 juin 2016

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"Brexit" and the EU

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What are your guys' thoughts? I'm especially curious to know the opinions of those from the EU and the UK.

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Hi there! I'm really excited that this forum exists. I've been into MBTI and Enneagram for ~2 years now. Discovering Socionics was amazing - I think it's far more accurate than MBTI and I love how it doesn't have any intuitive/sensor bias. Hope to learn more from all of you here

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jeudi 23 juin 2016

Ti-Seeking vs. Ti PoLR?

Hey there. I would like to hear from some ExFj's and ExFp's on this. I find descriptions on the internet are too vague on these subjects.

ExFj's, why exactly do you seek Ti? What do you Ti-dom duals (if you've interacted with one) do that intrigues you?

On the flip-side, Ti PoLR's. What is it about Ti that you hate? What has you conflictor done that has irritated you?

I'd like for this to stick to real-life examples, if possible.

Thanks.

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Personal concepts
1. What is beauty? What is love?

i hate this question

2. What are your most important values?

truth

3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

i believe in astrology, karma, guardians, that we have a fate. Because it makes sense and there has to be something more than what we actually can see. because why would we be alive otherwise? I believe karma works in a way that in your next life you get karma(good or bad energy) for the things youve done in your past lifes. and by this we each learn a lesson in each of our lives and together making the world grow stronger

4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

i dont care that much. if two big forces are against eachother there is nothing that can be done from my side and i dont care either because im not affected like the regular person thats not affected. ill let them have their little fights whatever

Interests
5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

i dont really have long conversations. my interests are psychology, music, and building houses/interior/exterior designing on the sims cause its so entertaining. when i was younger i wanted to be an architect. and an archeologist. lol

6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

no. i recognize when i feel bad or tired if thats not normal and i want to eat good and work out but it just sucks. i wish i could find a fun workout or go to a class so i cant just walk away and give up.

7. What do you think of daily chores?

i dont really do them unless i feel like ive been slacking soo much i just organize everything in one go. or something is dirty and i get super paranoid that theres gonna come bugs i clean every little corner there is

8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

Its actually been a long time since i watched a movie and ive never actually finished a book. i just feel like it such a waste of time and i should be doing something else. i prefer things you can just do and then when you need to go you can just go. also i get bored fast i guess and my thoughts slip into something else. With an exception of scary movies. but i hate them but i cant stop watching

Movies i like: the hunger games movies, About Time, Midnight in Paris, Vicky cristina barcelona, Scott pilgrim vs the world, Lost in translation, Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, Zodiac, groundhog Day, that other movie with Jake Gyllenhaal where he plays a psycho reporter, Catch me if you can, Shutter Island, Blue is the warmest color, Fight club, Ruby sparks

Tvshows: I fucking love friends

9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?
life?

10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

dont know.

Evaluation & Behaviour
11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

facing my fears. facing my fears.

12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

Surprisingly gets everything done/pushes through in the end that they thought was gonna be very hard because of certain circumstances

13. In what areas of your life would you like help?
Someone to take me out to parties or just hagning out with others or outside. And with school. And when i want to achieve something they would lay down all the steps on how i can do it.

14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

No. or maybe ive just been in one my whole life.

People & Interactions
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

When people are rude for no reason, talking shit about others that havent done anything, or just when they dont include everyone (subtly) or think theyre superior. I get along with people that are not these things. People that are easy going, that keep secrets, not too loud, but talks more than me so we can ahve a conversation going.

16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

i feel good about it lol. but its the thing that can make me feel the worst. I want a partner who is above ^ and not scared to make a fool out of themselves, dont care what other people think of their actions. and smarter than me. and attractive


17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?
idk too much responsibilities

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

depends. mostly negative. how i act depends on how my mood is and if want to deal with the stress of arguing or not.

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

i feel not included. i feel like i cant be myself fully brcause then people will judge me.

20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?
By how comfortable i feel around them. idk

21. How do you behave around strangers?
Depends on how theyre acting towards me

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mercredi 22 juin 2016

21Q Because I Can!

Doing this because I haven't done a 21Q before! Mostly for fun and I enjoy how these questions aren't function-specific.


I currently type at SEE-Fi 6w7 sx/so, but other well-reasoned input is welcomed too if you disagree. Feel free to ask more questions or elaborations. Thanks for reading.

Personal concepts

1. What is beauty? What is love?

Beauty is in nature, to me. I love to do nature photography. I find beauty in colors, too. I love fashion as well, especially gothic fashion. I find beauty in darker things.

Love is more complicated. It’s an intense feeling for someone. A desire to be close to them and to never let them go. A bond, an understanding. Love is intense.

2. What are your most important values?

Strength, honesty, truth, loyalty, authenticity, and doing what is good.

3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

I am a Pagan and a witch. I believe in the forces of nature. I’m very much into the mysterious, archetypal, symbolic, and supernatural. I hold these beliefs because I believe there is an underlying realm in the world, that there’s more than meets the eye.

4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

I don’t like war, honestly. But I do believe in fighting to keep what is yours and defending your home and what is right. Power is strength, intimidation, fearlessness and a knowing that you can conquer with force.

Interests
5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

I’ve had long conversations about my interests. Like movies, videogames, etc.
I’ve also had long conversations about my relationships and memories. Talking about my family and friends and my relationships with them, our dynamics.

6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

Health/medicine is a kind of interesting topic to me. I love biology as it is fascinating. I’m studying to be a veterinarian currently, actually. I’m sort of focused on my body. I want to physically fit so I can do things like run, dance, hike, work, etc. and to look good.

7. What do you think of daily chores?

I hate them. Lol.

8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

Books: Tales of the Necromancer series, Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children, The Hunger Games, The House of Night series, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings, Bram Stoker’s Dracula, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, and I’m currently reading a book called The Dark Days by Alison Goodman. When I was younger, I loved the Warrior Cats books by Erin Hunter. A lot of Stephen King books. There are many more but the list would be exhaustive. Lol.

Movies: Marvel films, The Batman Nolan trilogy, Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, The Labyrinth, Phantom of the Opera, Independence Day, and the ones I want to see that are coming out are Tarzan, Independence Day: Resurgence, and Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children.

TV Shows: (I don’t watch much TV, so bear with me here) Gotham, Raising Hope, Ghost Hunting/Paranormal shows, some Game of Thrones.

Anime: (I don’t like anime too much but the few I like are worth mentioning) Black Butler, Hellsing, Wolf’s Rain, Hetalia, and I’ve started watching Death Note. Not bad. I used to love InuYasha when I was younger but I can’t stomach it anymore.

Music: (Metal is my favorite genre, though I’m diverse) Nightwish, Within Temptation, Epica, Disturbed, Evanescence, Halestorm, Sonata Arctica, The Sisters of Mercy
And I do like some mainstream songs because I like the beat they have.

9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

I’ve cried out of worry for my mother’s health, fear of my future, when my father died and when I’ve missed him dearly.

What has made me smile is a little harder. Laughing at something funny, being with my friends, watching the horses in the pasture, winning at a riding competition.

10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

When I have all my friends together and am interacting with them, definitely when I’m being physical (running, hiking, dancing, swimming, etc.), when I’m getting things done, when I’m in nature and engaging in it.

Evaluation & Behaviour
11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

I’m a bit impulsive. As in, if something is overwhelming to me I eradicate it too quickly especially when emotional. That I can be a bit selfish at times. Or I sometimes jump on things too fast. I dislike that I sometimes lack an attention span and can’t plan things out well.

12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

That I’m very strong mentally, independent, learn physical things quickly, a hard worker, adaptable, and reliable. I like that I am capable of doing things on my own for the most part.

13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

I would like help on things like planning a course of action for my life and activities. I tend to struggle with some things like writing papers or projects for college. Some help with things like financial planning, as I have goals in my life I’d like to achieve but I’m not entirely sure how to get there.

14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

Yes. Right now. I feel stuck when I don’t make progress with things. In my horse riding career I feel stuck because I am unable to pay for shows and things. If I don’t advance I feel stuck. I’ve had foot surgery and have not been able to work or anything, so I feel stuck because I’m not doing anything.

People & Interactions
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

I dislike when people are loud, obnoxious, and don’t take things seriously. I dislike when people are rude or aren’t respectful of other’s feelings. I get along with people who are quiet yet fun, have similar interests to myself, and who I can have deeper conversations with.

16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

I’m a romantic person and do have a higher sex drive. I want someone who can handle my intensity, keeps up with me, and is loyal and reliable.


17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

I don’t like kids and don’t really want them. But I would teach them not to whine, just do things/not give up, and how to be respectful. I think I would be a rather strict mother. However, I would also value my children doing their own thing and making their own choices. As in, I wouldn’t dictate them on what they should wear for example.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

I’m pretty quiet about my beliefs, but if something really clashes I would state my point clearly and explain my viewpoint. I would choose my words carefully yet I would not hold back my opinion.

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

I don’t really give a crap about society to be honest. I generally dislike people. I guess a prevalent social problem is how the media pushes a certain image onto people, especially females. I hate that.
20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?
I choose my friends based on common interests and perhaps worldviews. They share my sort of humor and I seek to build a bond with them. Around my friends, I’m fun loving and like to joke/tease.

21. How do you behave around strangers?
I’m hesitant around strangers. They make me nervous and I do have social anxiety. But I’m polite and respectful, still, if a bit guarded. I don’t like interacting with a bunch of strangers.

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