mardi 31 mai 2016

Colors and enneagram types

I'm thinking of what colors might correspond w what enneagram types. For example, my mom is E9 sp/so (EII), and her favorite color is light blue...which seems like a great match for her type.

Here're my thoughts:

E1 -- white; light gray

E2 -- coral; hot pink

E3 -- bright, deep green; reddish orange

E4 -- purple; silver

E5 -- dark blue

E6 -- orange; yellow

E7 -- yellow

E8 -- black; deep red

E9 -- blue (various shades, depending on subtype, stack, etc.)

I have synesthesia, but I tried not to let the colors the numbers as numerals are influence this too much.

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Colors and enneagram types

You can't handle all of it! by I/O

The brain cannot handle all the information that comes through the senses. Initially, we're all fitted with much the same input-output processors; some may have faster memory access but this does not make up for inherent bandwidth limitations of the system. To reduce potential workload, distinctive processor restrictions have to be adopted; people become specialists in handling limited sets of data in limited ways. Thus, type is born.

Process control is structured in one of two ways. The first employs priority interrupts (open-loop with no feedback) so that input can be turned off while output is operating, or vice versa. An explorer (Ep) curbs rationalization so that information acquisition can be maximized. A planner (Ij) restricts data acquisition to increase rationalization capacity. However, being able to shut down an entire processing stream to give more resources to the other set of processes does pose obvious weaknesses regardless of how fast the switch can be made.

The second structure employs a comparator (with feedback and filter) to limit processing so that input and output can be kept online simultaneously. This closed-loop configuration considers only information that falls within narrow ranges, exploits rationalizations of others, and demands immediate closure in order to move on to the next step. Now, an observer (Ip) is dominated by input processes, whereas a leader (Ej) has rationalization in control. Stability (ego?) requires that, regardless of structure, only one process can be in ultimate control – input or output.

In a limited bandwidth scenario, processing has to rob Peter to pay Paul. Since all input and output have relative and absolute components, processing limits itself to a reduced set of preferences (N versus S and F versus T). The unused information and processes are still available if it weren't for the fact that stuff that's not regularly used tends to atrophy; and, we simply cannot be all things to all processes. Processing power is finite regardless of how it's employed so we are doomed to our limitations - right from the get-go. Instead of focusing on what we're not and trying to repair what's not broken, we need to better use what we've got.

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You can't handle all of it! by I/O

40 Questions

Block I - Te

1. What is work in your opinion? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters where you can distinguish whether you can do this work or not?

Work is to do something with an intent and focus. Because of terms like 'hard work' and 'working towards something' I couldn't say it's something you exert yourself over or is working towards something.
People work for their own reasons. They tend to do work for money because they need or want it, but other work might be due to any inclination. Although, if you're saying 'go to work' I'm guessing that means going out to work and not working from home, so maybe because they don't want to or can't work from home for whatever reason, and/or because they prefer either being the boss of others or having a boss and/or they like being around people. Lots of things to keep in mind.
'This work' is very vague. I think with the right adjustments most people could do any job. I mean, I don't think I could currently be an astronaut but with the right training, I probably could. It might just be harder for some people.

2. How do people determine the quality of work? How do you determine such quality? How well you can determine the quality of any purchase, do you pay any attention to it?

Depends which people you're talking about. People tend to focus on one kind of quality (aesthetics, practicality, durablility etc.), although some do focus on more. That quality is subjective to the person viewing it as each person may want different things from that object – they may require it to work in different ways.
Personally, I determine quality based on a variety of factors including durability and comfort/aesthetics – the quality of the object is how well it suits my needs. I pay attention to quality to an extent, but often price has to come first due to a limited income.

3. There is a professional right next to you. You always see that you can't perform the way they do. Your feelings, thoughts and actions?

If they're a professional in an area I'm not particularly interested in, I wouldn't really notice them, although I might respect the fact they're good at what they do (that's what I take 'professional' to mean).
If they're a professional in something I'm interested in, but not pursuing myself, I'd want to ask them questions, but probably wouldn't (social anxiety; discomfort with starting conversations because I might not be able to properly continue them). I'd be impressed at the expertise they demonstrated.
If they were a professional in something I was interested in and wanted to pursue (like writing), I'd be very interested in talking to them about it to get their take on it, but again I probably wouldn't, even though I might really want to.

4. If you struggle to do something, what can you say about such a task? Tell us your next steps and give examples. Compare with actions of others in a similar situation.

If I struggle with something and it's something people are relying on me for (like in work), I get very internally flustered and embarrassed and try to do the task without letting on that I'm struggling. I'd either somehow figure out how to do it by just breaking it down into smaller chunks and putting it together, or I'd have to give up and ask for help (probably after just standing/sitting there for a while working up to it, because I feel so bad having to ask).
Most other people don't seem to have an issue with asking; they just do it and it's completely fine. They seem a lot calmer about struggling, like they don't really care much.

5. You need to build a pyramid exactly like in Egypt. Your thoughts, feelings and actions?

I've watched a lot of documentaries on Ancient Egypt since a very young age (I was very taken with it) so I actually know the method they used. I'd draw up a rough plan, work out materials needed and how I could go about doing it. I'd be a bit worried about undertaking a project which was so very much 'there' and I couldn't make changes to easily – on my projects I tend to make a lot of changes later on.

Block II - Ti

1. General to specific, specific to general – what does it mean? Give examples.

General is an overview, while specific is focus on a couple of (usually) important or significant details. So general to specific would be at first taking in the whole picture, then shifting your focus to one particular item. Specific to general would be the reverse, of course.
For example, you might have a painting of a seaside with people all long the shore at sunset (general), then you notice one lady's white hat and focus on that in detail.

2. What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view? Is it is easy for you to be logical?

Logical means something that makes sense – it works in the way you expect it to, or in a way that otherwise links into that. Like with logical progression: you expect certain events to lead into one another. I use that as a basis for story writing generally. I don't like to plan (it feels like I've then written the story without actually writing it and I lose motivation) so I tend to work through how one action would link into the next in the context of that world.
Depends what you mean by the 'common view'. It seems like getting a general consensus on logic is pretty difficult, at least in my experience.
I think so. I hope my writing is logical and my writing is a big part of me.

3. What is hierarchy? Give examples of hierarchies. Do you need to follow it? Why or why not? Give example of hierarchy of systems, what is it?

Hierarchy is a ranking system based on perceived value. It tends to be pyramid-shaped in that you have many of lower value, then only a few of higher value.
I suppose I have my own hierarchy for things, in a sense, because I often feel like I'm running out of time so I prioritise in what I think could be considered to be a hierarchical system of importance. If you mean in terms of things like social hierarchy, I don't personally agree with it – like the Prime Minister of the UK isn't fit for his position, in my opinion, so I would never respect him as a professional – but as I'm generally polite to people, I don't struggle with it too much. I don't make a big deal out of opposing it.
Hierarchy of systems would probably be the one I described before about prioritising.

4. Choose one of the following tasks and give a detailed answer. Explain your choice.
If A is not B, and B is not C, therefore A is C. Is it correct? Why?

Not necessarily. What if none of them are each other? Why should A be C? That doesn't make sense. I guess it's trying to work off a process of elimination, but that only works if you're sure the answer is there. As it is, there isn't enough information or context to solve this problem (if it even needs to be solved – A, B and C all being individual objects seems fine to me).

5. Do you frequently feel the need to structure information? For what purpose? How do people usually do it? How do you do it?

I'm not really sure what is meant by 'structure'. If it means 'breaking it down to 'see' it better' then I do that. If information is like a jigsaw puzzle, I structure it in as much as picking out the corner and edge pieces first and building up understanding that way. Build up from what you have and develop and grow your understanding to try and reach the complete picture.

Block III - Se

1. Can you press people? What methods do you use? If so, how does it happen?

Pressure them? I can, I guess, but I really don't like to. I think I try to explain why I'm keen on something happening to get them to see where I'm coming from. If so... what? I don't understand what that last part is referring to.

2. Are there strategies of attack? Can you use them? When is it justified? Do you think it's ok to occupy someone else's territory? In what situations?

Yes, there are a variety of them. I personally have used some strategies in things like paintball, where I've used cover to keep myself hidden and sniped people who haven't seen me, although at times I've reached the objective through sheer chance (in one game I was covering a team mate who was supposed to go up and retrieve the flag, but then he went out and got shot, so I had to take over which involved a lot of not-very-strategic behaviour of running really fast and lying down out of sight until the other team lowered their guard).
Verbal plans of attack are also a thing. I can use them by discussing something with someone until they eventually trip themselves up or I notice they've contradicted themselves/said something that doesn't make sense and questioned them on it. I did find asking a troublesome housemate if she really thought her behaviour was okay was effective too.
But generally, I think these should either be done only if you have no other choice. I can't stand the thought of attacking someone verbally or physically. Especially not occupying someone else's territory. I don't like people getting into my space and acting aggressively towards me, and I wouldn't want to do that myself. It's somehow very repulsive.

3. How do you protect yourself and your interests?

I don't tend to have to defend myself or my interests. Although I've had negative things said about my character a couple of times, to which I didn't respond well and got quite angry and frustrated, then removed myself from it for a while. So I guess withdrawing would be the answer.

4. Describe your behavior in the situations of opposition and if you have to use some force?

Hm. One example I can think of was when a guy I knew was being bullied in school and the bullies were laughing and jumping at him, so I made myself a human barrier between them – but couldn't really do much else. My anger paralysed me. When they were trying to hit him with a door, I did dig my nails into one guy's hand though, as hard as I could to make him stop laughing about it.

5. Do others think of you as a strong person? Do you think you are a strong person?

I think they see me as not 'strong' but 'stable'. I've been called a 'waif' by my friend in the past because of 'an air I give off'. I think my close friends and family are aware of my strong views on certain things and they tend to try and avoid my instinctual reaction of explaining exactly why I disagree with something for about half an hour at a time (I don't realise I'm doing that 'lecturing' thing until later... It's a bad habit).

Block IV - Si

1. What is beauty? Do you change your opinion about beauty? Does your understanding correlate with the generally accepted notion? What goes beyond the generally accepted notion?

Something that makes my eyes/ears relax (something that hits a strong note with me may or may not be 'beautiful' – beauty is more 'soothing'). I think my opinion of what it beautiful has changed from what it used to be, very gradually so I would only really notice when looking back and actively comparing. I don't think my understanding does – but it's hard to say as I'm not 100% sure on what the generally accepted notion is. It always seems to be fluctuating and jumping from one thing to the next in no particular order, just on a sort of whim (which makes sense seeing as it's developed by the elite minority and they change with the times). I think anything not considered to be 'in fashion' in terms of art, appearance, music etc. is going beyond that notion. Not that I could get a proper fix on what that is either.

2. Is there a template of understanding what beautiful means for everyone to use? Is there such a term as "classic beauty"? If so, what is it?

There's no great single definition out there, if that's what this is getting at. I think there is a term 'classic beauty' but it's used in so many different ways, it doesn't really have meaning.

3. How do you create your comfort and coziness? How do others evaluate your skill in doing so? Do you agree with them?

I wear comfortable clothes, keep myself warm/cool enough, make a sort of 'nest' where I usually sit so all my often-used items are around me and I feel relaxed. I tend to have softer lighting and not too much noise (I do listen to music a lot though, just not really loudly). I don't know what others think about it. I never thought to ask.

4. How do you pick your own clothes? Do you follow fashion? Why? Do you know how to select clothes for different types of figures?

Comfort and colour. I need to not be too aware of the clothes, otherwise they become distracting – like material that rubs against your skin too much and feels rough – and I like the look of certain colours (they make my eyes relax). I don't follow fashion. I don't understand it and it's very time-consuming and expensive. I don't really know how to select them, but I could probably make a decent guess if I had to.

5. Tell us how you'd design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself or trust someone else to do it? Why?

Plenty of easy-access storage for books, DVDs and games. Enough room to be able to fit all that stuff in one place – maybe a library/game room/cinema? Comfortable chairs and sofas, blankets, carpet, soft light (mostly lamps with those multicoloured glass lampshades). I also like small ornaments, so I'd probably have some of those lurking around. Two or three big windows with a great view – on a higher floor so no one could look in easily. I'd want to do it if I had to live there because I know my tastes.

Block V - Fe

1. Is it acceptable to express emotions in public? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

For me, it's a matter of feeling very awkward with expressing strong emotions in public. It might be part of social anxiety, but I struggle to even show much enthusiasm when I'm not in a private area with people I'm comfortable with. I also get very awkward with people displaying very strong emotions at me in public, although I also appreciate their ability to do that without thinking about it (my friend does that a lot – she once suddenly screamed at me because she was so happy I was up to date on a webcomic she was reading).
I don't think there's really an 'inappropriate' expression of emotion. 'Appropriate' emotion just seems like non-emotion, in that emotions can't really be regulated – they can be controlled, of course, but not regulated.

2. Think of such negative emotional states as sadness, gloom, and despondence. Can you, at your own will, enter these states? If not, then when do you feel them? How long can you stay in such states? How can you withdraw from them? Can they be pleasant, soothing? How do you feel after you have experienced them?

Yes, by thinking of situations which would make me very sad – although that's generally an accident and then I struggle to get back out of those moods (I have depressive periods anyway). I don't find negative emotions to be soothing. Intense emotions can be, like when you read a book/watch a film/hear a song that really hits you, but not purely negative ones.
I usually feel tired, like I need to go to sleep for a couple of days to get over them.

3. How quickly can you change emotional state? To what side – positive or negative?

Depends. Sometimes I can have sudden changes in emotion without even realising until it's happened (it can be a shock), but other times I can have very low-key emotions, kind of apathy. Usually more sudden switches into emotions like irritation or sadness, but sometimes I've very suddenly switched into feeling extremely happy.

4. What emotional state is usual for you? Does your internal emotional state correlate with what you show externally?

Calm, generally a bit tired, but relaxed mostly. Neither very positive or negative. I apparently show my emotions on my face (without realising it – once I was asked to watch a series by my friends and they were watching for my reaction and I couldn't hide that I wasn't enjoying it, even though I tried).

5. Tell us about your moods over the last day.

I got woken up by a text, which I found kind of exasperatingly funny because I had to go to work. Then I was quite neutral, but felt bad for my cat because he was getting anxious as my mum has gone away for a couple of days and he doesn't like change. Then I went to work feeling a little anxious as I'd put in an application for leave and didn't know if I could get it (it's for when my friend's coming to stay). I had a vaguely amusing conversation with my colleagues because I tried to explain a game I'd been playing and they really didn't understand it (my explanation was awful, to be fair) so it sounded like a different kind of thing. Then I had some low-level frustration because of thinking about the story I've been wanting to write, but am struggling to get started. Got the leave accepted, which was a relief.
After work, I listened to music that made me feel quite positive, but by the time I got through the front door I was just tired (because of being woken up). Then I've just felt fairly neutral most of the evening.

Block VI - Fi

1. Tell us, how did you build relationships with others over the last day?

Ack... I tried to ask questions in return for being asked about things (I was told off in a previous job for 'not bonding with my colleagues', so I'm a bit worried/conscious about it). I mentioned I had a twin sister, which my colleague didn't know and found strangely funny. Huh... I don't know, really. I don't build relationships easily.

2. What is sympathy? When do you need to express it? When is it advised not to? How do you express it?

When someone expresses regret for someone else's situation without necessarily feeling the emotion themselves (difference between sympathy and empathy). You don't need to express it ever – it's not a completely necessary thing – but if someone you like is feeling down about something, it can sometimes help (my initial reaction is to give advice and try to solve the problem, which one friend told me he didn't want – he wanted sympathy – which I didn't understand, but tried to do because I care about him).
I don't know if it's advisable not to.

3. Are there any standards of behaviour or interpersonal relationships in the society? If so, do you adhere to them? Do people always have to maintain them? Why?

I think there are expectations of standards, but the standards themselves are conceptual and tend to (even if only very slightly) differ depending on the individual due to nurturing environments (usually). I try not to do something like cause a scene, mostly because it makes me feel very uncomfortable and awkward (I once cried in school after falling over on a football and winding myself, and then wanted to sink into the ground). I don't think people have to maintain them, although if people are doing things like shouting at each other in the street, it's very unpleasant and makes me anxious.

4. What does moral mean? What is immoral? How do you understand these terms and does your understanding correlate with the others? How can you evaluate the correctness of your own understanding?

Morality is holding yourself to certain personal standards, while immoral is the opposite (why does this questionnaire keep asking things like that?). That previous sentence is my understanding. I can only evaluate it as far as it makes sense to me, that morality is generally a personal thing developed over the course of your life.

5. Somebody is giving you a negative attitude – what is your reaction? Could you show your own negative attitude toward someone else? If so, how? Could you feel ill-disposed towards somebody for a long time? How easily do you forgive people?

Depends on the reason. I'd probably try to give them advice to solve their situation, but if they didn't take it or show any inclination of trying to change their situation (and weren't suffering from a mental illness that was stopping them) I'd remove myself from their situation. I express negativity around people I'm close to, but struggle to with people like colleagues or strangers because it's personal. I tend to just say what the negative thing is.
I tend not to hold grudges, mostly because they tire me out. I can have a slightly negative feeling towards someone if they've done something very bad, but generally after something very awful, I'd just get away from them. I do tend to give people at least a couple of second chances.

Block VII - Ne

1. Is there a meaning of life? In what? Is it the same for everybody?

I think meaning in life is entirely personal – life is what you make of it and how you perceive it. What has meaning for me may mean nothing to someone else.

2. When you meet a stranger, what can you say about them right away? How do you know what this person is all about? Does it take long to understand someone's traits?

Not much. I struggle to make first impressions. I generally feel wary, because I don't know anything about them and have to start learning about them from scratch. It can take quite a while before I feel like I have a decent understanding of someone on a surface level.

3. 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.' (Albert Einstein). What is the core of stupidity? Explain the reason for its infinity. How does thinking of a fool differ?

Ignorance isn't the same thing as stupidity. Stupidity is thinking or doing something wrong despite knowing that it's wrong – through something like pride. Ignoring the truth because it doesn't suit you – something like that.

4. Truth, half-truth and lie: where is the borderline between these concepts? Are "pure" states possible, and how can collection of true facts turn into lies?

If you bend the truth, it's no longer what it once was and therefore it's not the 'truth'. It may not be a direct lie, but it's not true. True facts can turn into lies in the wrong context.

5. Ideas do not have to be correct in order to be good. What's your attitude towards this statement?

I'm unsure. For example, ideas don't have to be realisitic to be good – that's why surreal stories are good fiction – but they do need to be 'correct' in some ways to hold true in the mind. There needs to be something to hold onto.

Block VIII - Ni

1. How do people change? How do you feel about those changes? Can others see the changes?

People are always changing in a variety of ways. I don't personally feel strongly about those changes unless they're in someone I'm close to and they begin to look completely unlike the person I liked. I lose the feeling for them and they lose their colour, then they fade away.
I think others can see changes, although maybe not the same ones.

2. What is time? How do you feel time? Can you waste time?

Time in human society is something constructed to regulate, while in nature it's something that changes you slowly – your mind tends to improve while your body begins to rot, then eventually it also declines (usually). Time is something people struggle to fill, to keep themselves busy.
You can waste it if you aren't developing or doing something recreational for yourself. It would depend on the person though.

3. Do you need help creating forecasts and determining how something will end? Do you trust those forecasts?

I tend to be okay to working out where things are leading, but I generally try not to predict things (especially the endings of books or films, because that ruins it). I trust them to an extent, but it's not a major concern for me.

4. Are you normally late? How do you react if someone is late?

Not unless I really can't help it (like if the bus is late). I don't like keeping people waiting and get concerned if people don't turn up after 15-20 minutes in case something's happened to them or they're just not going to come. It's rude not to tell people you're going to be late, in my opinion.

5. Tell us your thoughts on the topic of "Influence of fortune on my life.”

Things like luck? I don't really believe in it and don't really want to. I don't want to think there's a force like that favouring some people over others and giving them an easier ride (of course some people do have a more secure life, although their emotional life may be no easier). I'd prefer everyone to be on a level playing field.

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40 Questions

lundi 30 mai 2016

An awesome test

This is a test I found out online. It'll remain unnamed. Answer it as truthfully as possible-truthfulness of the courtroom scale is advised. The results can also get uncomfortable, so be prepared. Here are the full 567 questions(Sigmar preserve me). You answer it by picking between True(T) and False(F). You can also abstain if you feel the question is middling. Without further ado:

1. I like mechanics magazines.
2. I have a good appetite.
3. I wake up fresh and rested most mornings.
4. I think I would enjoy the work of a librarian.
5. I am easily awakened by noise.
6. My father is a good man (or if your father is dead) my father was a good man.
7. I like to read newspaper articles on crime.
8. My hands and feet are usually warm enough.
9. My daily life is full of things that keep me interested.
10. I am about as able to work as I ever was.
11. There seems to be a lump in my throat much of the time.
12. My sex life is satisfactory.
13. People should try to understand their dreams and be guided by or take warning from them.
14. I enjoy detective or mystery stories.
15. I work under a great deal of tension.
16. Once in a while I think of things too bad to talk about.
17. I am sure I get a raw deal from life.
18. I am troubled by attacks of nausea and vomiting.
19. When I take a new job, I like to find out whom it is important to be nice to.
20. I am very seldom bothered by constipation.
21. At times I have very much wanted to leave home.
22. No one seems to understand me.
23. At times I have fits of laughing and crying that I cannot control.
24. Evil spirits possess me at times.
25. I would like to be a singer.
26. I feel that it is certainly best to keep my mouth shut when I am in trouble.
27. When people do me wrong, I feel I should pay them back, just for the principle of the thing.
28. I am bothered by an upset stomach several times a week.
29. At times I feel like swearing.
30. I have nightmares every few nights.
31. I find it hard to keep my mind on a task or job.
32. I have had very peculiar and strange experiences.
33. I seldom worry about my health.
34. I have never been in trouble because of my sexual behavior.
35. Sometimes when I was young I stole things.
36. I have a cough most of the time.
37. At times I feel like smashing things.
38. I have had periods of days, weeks, or months when I couldn't take care of things because I couldn't "get going".
39. My sleep is fitful and disturbed.
40. Much of the time, my head seems to hurt all over.
41. I do not always tell the truth.
42. If people had not had it in for me, I would have been much more successful.
43. My judgment is better than it ever was.
44. Once a week (or more often) I suddenly feel hot all over, for no reason.
45. I am in just as good physical health as most of my friends.
46. I prefer to pass by school friends, or people I know but have not seen for a long time, unless they speak to me first.
47. I am almost never bothered by pains over my heart or in my chest.
48. Most anytime I would rather sit and daydream than do anything else.
49. I am a very sociable person.
50. I have often had to take orders from someone who did not know as much as I did.
51. I do not read every editorial in the newspaper every day.
52. I have not lived the right kind of life.
53. Parts of my body often have feelings like burning, tingling, crawling, or like "going to sleep".
54. My family does not like the work I have chosen (or the work I intend to choose for my lifework).
55. I sometimes keep on at a thing until others lose their patience with me.
56. I wish I could be as happy as others seem to be.
57. I hardly ever feel pain in the back of my neck.
58. I think a great many people exaggerate their misfortunes in order to gain the sympathy and help of others.
59. I am troubled by discomfort in the pit of my stomach every few days or so.
60. When I am with people I am bothered by hearing very strange things.
61. I am an important person.
62. I have often wished I were a girl. (or if you are a girl) I have never been sorry that I am a girl.
63. My feelings are not easily hurt.
64. I enjoy reading love stories.
65. Most of the time I feel blue.
66. It would be better if almost all laws were thrown away.
67. I like poetry.
68. I sometimes tease animals.
69. I think I would like the kind of work a forest ranger does.
70. I am easily downed in an argument.
71. These days I find it hard not to give up hope of amounting to something.
72. My soul sometimes leaves my body.
73. I am certainly lacking in self-confidence.
74. I would like to be a florist.
75. I usually feel that life is worthwhile.
76. It takes a lot of argument to convince most people of the truth.
77. Once in a while I put off until tomorrow what I ought to do today.
78. Most people that know me like me.
79. I do not mind being made fun of.
80. I would like to be a nurse.
81. I think most people would lie to get ahead.
82. I do many things that I regret afterwards. (I regret things more than others seem to.)
83. I have very few quarrels with members of my family.
84. I was suspended from school one or more times for bad behavior.
85. At times, I have a strong urge to do something harmful or shocking.
86. I like to go to parties and other affairs where there is a lot of loud fun.
87. I have met problems so full of possibilities that I have been unable to make up my mind about them.
88. I believe that women ought to have as much sexual freedom as men.
89. My hardest battles are with myself.
90. I love my father, or (if your father is dead) I loved my father.
91. I have little or no trouble with my muscles twitching or jumping.
92. I don't seem to care what happens to me.
93. Sometimes when I am not well I am irritable.
94. Much of the time I feel as if I have done something wrong or evil.
95. I am happy most of the time.
96. I see things or animals or people around me that others do not see.
97. There seems to be a fullness in my head or nose most of the time.
98. Some people are so bossy that I feel like doing the opposite of what they request, even though I know they are right.
99. Someone has it in for me.
100. I have never done anything dangerous just for the thrill of it.

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dimanche 29 mai 2016

Socionics Art and Diagrams

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I made this so I could have something nice that is related to socionics to put on my wall. I'll post a picture when I make it in the real world.

If you guys have anything similar, I'd love to see it.

Also, here the logo I made for the world socionics society, which has a similar theme.

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David Miscavige (scientology leader)

just saw the movie 'my scientology movie' from louis theroux.

The leader of scientology seems to be pretty crazy brutal and narcissistic.

Can you type him (i have little idea), it's also oke to give parts of his type, like is he extravert or introvert, emotion/logic etc.

Here's an interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exzmE3vW_Tw

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David Miscavige (scientology leader)

Communication style differences

I regular have in mind the enneagram instincts in regards this topic, but it no doubt has relevance in regards Socionics and psychology in general.

I've been wondering the extent to which manners of communication are passed down from generation to generation, and to a lesser extent, sideways.

I notice that certain behaviours I have include:
- not wishing to be overheard by strangers to perhaps an unusual degree (and also, to a varying extent depending on what is said: this often means being barely audible, and that I place a large value on the intended recipient watching my mouth move (i.e. lip-reading essentially). I think this means that conversations tend to happen at close distances.
- not wishing to "speak through walls": I think a grandfather and/or a friend's father developed this behaviour in me. It strikes me as rather cold to interact in such a way, and should be avoided. (A slight related behaviour to this is being unwilling to close a door on someone when a conversation has ended (depending on the distance & direction the person is facing): it just sends the wrong signal. This does depend on how formal the relationship is though, and my view of their mental state. If the relationship is formal, I don't especially care.
- not wishing to send emails or text messages or making phone calls, especially if it is fairly easy to see the relevant person in person.
- not wishing to type "personal" letters etc., but preferring to write them by hand, as rare as that is.

I had some other examples, but I have forgotten how I wished to describe them.

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samedi 28 mai 2016

Socionics Primer: Part 1

Overview

Socionics is a personality type system which displays an individual’s type of information metabolism (TIM), also known as Socionics Type or Sociotype. The basic model, Model A, arranges the psyche into eight different parts, called “functions,” which are ordered positions of the psyche. Within each of these functions is placed one of eight “information elements,” arranged by a predetermined ruleset for positioning. The information elements represent the division of aspects of the world, people, and their behaviors into eight different parts. By placing the information elements in the correct order through the functions of Model A, an individual may see not only how they currently operate, but how they would currently operate in various life situations, and how they may best operate currently.

Functions Overview

1. Leading Function: Primary lens through which the individual views the world around them. Contains the clearest and most detailed view of the world around them. All new information from the world is filtered first through the Leading, and returns through the Leading as well.

2. Creative Function: Primary means through which the individual connects the world around them to their own worldview. Is not constantly used in a direct manner. Directly creates new information in society.

3. Role Function: Primary social mask when interacting with the world around them. Although not a goal of the individual in society, it is maintained to assist the individual in completing their Leading purpose in society.

4. Vulnerable Function: Primary restricted element when interacting with the world around them. Contains known neuroses and fears when dealing with society. On/Off manner of operation; low ability to filter when used. Known repression in favor of Leading in society.

5. Suggestive Function: Primary request of what the individual wants from society. Individual will regularly be “suggested” to do this, automatically comply, and not be consciously aware of such at the immediate time, but may become aware later. Usable indefinitely.

6. Mobilizing Function: Primary means of energizing the individual to increased activity of the psyche. Is requested, sought, and accepted intermittently as individual sees necessary.

7. Ignoring Function: Primary observation of the individual. Repressed for the individual personally in favor of the Leading, causing the individual to be more critical of this in others, but largely ignoring their own. When used directly, perceived by society as an individual strength.

8. Demonstrative Function: Primary automation and “background” function of the individual. Seat of the gateway to formless unconscious mind of the individual. “Demonstrated” when necessary to display the full strength of the culmination of the individual’s life experiences.

Blocks and Superblocks

These functions are grouped into pairs or “blocks,” which add further distinction between the functions, determine Quadra, and help in identification.

Ego Block: Combined pair of Leading (1) and Creative (2) functions. Block of Social Intelligence. Strong block when acting with the world around them. State of equilibrium of state and productivity of the psyche. Primary “product” of the psyche to society. Values these information elements.

Super-Ego Block: Combined pair of Role (3) and Vulnerable (4) functions. Block of Social Control. Weak block when acting with the world around them. State of stress and necessities when dealing with society out of self-preservation. Devalues these information elements.

Super-Id Block: Combined pair of the Suggestive (5) and Mobilizing (6) functions. Block of Individual Control. Weak block of individuality. State of amusement and pleasure when doing, receiving, or observing information on this block that is aligned with individuality. Values these information elements.

Id Block: Combined pair of Ignoring (7) and Demonstrative (8) functions. Block of Individual Tools. Strong block of individuality. State of apathy, boredom, and lethargy when dealing with information on this block from society. Culmination of strength of the individual. Devalues these information elements.

The blocks are further grouped into “superblocks” composed of two blocks each, which separate the social from the personal.

Mental Superblock: Combined pair of Ego Block and Super-Ego Block (Functions 1-4). Social Life Superblock. Superblock of Conscious thought and effort. Utilized when encountering new information in society before permanent integration into Vital Superblock.

Vital Superblock: Combined pair of Super-Id Block and Id Block (functions 5-8). Personal Life Superblock. Superblock of Preconscious automation. Superblock of Individuality and Experience accrued over one’s life. Integrates information from Social Life Superblock into Individuality for automatic processes.

Elements Overview

Te: (also called Work, Work Logic, Praxis, Objective Objects) Deals with work, movement, practical logic, algorithmic logic, objective qualities of objects

Fe: (also called Emotions, Ethics of Emotions, Objective Emotions/Energy) Deals with emotional displays, expressiveness, objective qualities of emotions and energy

Se: (also called Force, Force Sensing, Volitional Sensing, Boundaries/Bounds, Objective Sensing) Deals with force, power, territory, boundary, objective qualities of force, boundary, territory

Ne: (also called Intuition, Possibilities, Intuition of Possibilities, Objective Intuition) Deals with possibilities and potentials present, the “essence” determined by such, alternatives

Ti: (also called Laws, Structural Logic, Relations of Objects, Relational Logic, Subjective Logic) Deals with structure, comparisons of objects, organization, ordering, formal logic, subjective logic

Fi: (also called Relationships, Relations of Energy, Ethics of Relations, Relational Emotions, Subjective Emotions) Deals with interpersonal relationships, comparisons of emotions, comparisons of energy states, subjective ethics

Si: (also called Sensations, Sensational Sensing, Relations of Forces, Subjective Sensing) Deals with relationships and comparisons between forces and boundaries, aesthetics formed by comparative boundaries of parts, subjective sensing

Ni: (also called Time, Temporal Intuition, Events, Relations of Possibilities, Subjective Intuition) Deals with relationships and comparisons of events and possibilities, events taken place, probabilities, subjective intuition

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Health Anxiety

Does anyone else have this? I used to not really care about it or have it at all but recently I have become all too aware of my own and others mortality. We are only human and life-changing illnesses and infections can appear, seemingly out of nowhere. I have a hard time dealing with this and when I was recently sick and getting chest pains, became kind of obsessed with reading about symptoms and illnesses online, going to the doctor, etc. I'm still dealing with my fears but they go up and down; they have become a huge part of my life though in such a short time. I wonder what types are prone to this kind of hypochondria; I already had anxiety before this but it was never so bad. It also doesn't help that as you get older you're more prone to get more types of illnesses than teenagers and children, so now I'm terrified of getting old as well

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Health Anxiety

hey hoh here we go

SO i have been meaning to register on here for awhile but didn't get to it til now, but.... here i am! hello all!

i'm a 20 something going through a quarter life crisis ad still trying to find my "purpose" in life.... which is getting super hard for me to do because i've been so wrapped just trying to make money while trying to make ends meet. but!!! overall, things are cool-- i usually read up on socionics/mbti articles to help pass the time because... i dunno, i just find it all so dang interesting!! that, and i really would love to know what my type is as i'm way too everywhere and uhhhh... my moods are either super high, or super low so that makes it kinda hard as well... i don't even know why i want to know so hard, i just do?! yeah.

BUT anywho, i hope to get to the nitty gritty end of things here. looking forward to interacting with all y'all lovelies.

(also if anyone is curious, my name means 'fried egg' in thai!!! i don't even know why i chose that name... i just think it sounds cute plus fried egg is delicious ok)

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hey hoh here we go

Living with Depression

I feel incredibly nervous writing this, I'm afraid that someone will either be unsympathetic towards me or try to tell me that their life story is far worse than mine. I can't take living like this anymore, where the media becomes this twisted creature that completely destroys our perception of what it feels like to be empty and we are given the expectation that we should automatically recover from something, but that day of solace and recovery never came for me. I remember walking home from school each and every day, being bullied, beaten up and crying, while my mother giving me encouragement to keep moving and going forward. I started having suicidal thoughts when I was 9 and I felt this immense anxiety when talking to other people, like everything was pointless, no matter what I did. I grew up as an only child, without very many friends at all. The only two people I considered fairly close to me was my best friend, who I don't even speak to anymore and my cousin, who lives very far away from me. It still hurts to have to be forced to remember all of the things that have happened to me, trying to make friends as time passed, only to have one's life taken from being eaten away after an amoebic infection. I thought that things would look up for me after I got into a relationship with someone, but that didn't even improve my emotional state one bit. I only remembered that we broke up and what horrible things were said to me. I don't quite remember it very well, but it reminded me of when my mother would be very nice and encouraging, but then switch to intense anger and rage at me, whenever she was abused by my father. My father loved me very much, but he saw my mother only as an object, his trophy that served only to bring me into the world. This thought only gave my mother mixed emotions and this created her feelings of love/hate towards me. Even as time passes, I still remember how damaged I felt back then and how damaged I feel now. I don't know whether it's my past that's making me feel like this, or my clinical depression, but I only feel numb and deadened on the inside, without a single thought in my head. Thus, I continue to live, I cannot commit suicide, or else that would bring even more sadness into the world and I don't want anyone else to feel the way that I did. But I cannot stand the very thought of living like this either, I don't want to be forced to be happy or angry or sad, I only want to be free.

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Living with Depression

vendredi 27 mai 2016

Remarkable things you did today

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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx

I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

Best description of functions:
http://ift.tt/1InzOJc

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Fashion

"I want to visit Costa Rica and see sloths in the wild. I want to discover San Jose in short summer dresses and have drinks on the beach watching the sunset. I want to spend the night in the Arizona desert and watch the stars and listen to Elders telling stories on the reservation. I want to buy McDonald's for homeless people in Ottawa and go to the night market in Lagos and hike to Everest Base Camp and go to music festivals in Berlin. I want to tell you that I love you on top of the Abeokuta rock after we climbed up there in the muggy heat of the rain season. I want to cruise through the Adirondacks and stop at the tiniest diner we can find and eat omelette while the sun sets over the lake. I want you to be a brat so I can throw sugar packages at you across the table and watch your eyes sparkle so blue while you laugh. We can swim in lakes, rivers, and oceans and we will have new ideas every day. Are you with me?" - "I am with you." - "Are we doing this?" - "We are doing this."

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Fashion

What's my socionics type?

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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx

I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

Best description of functions:
http://ift.tt/1InzOJc

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What's my socionics type?

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[Enneagram] Instincts. What are they? All ideas and questions about Instincts Welcome.

There is a lot of debate about what instincts, and stackings, actually mean.

For instance some people would say Sp means managing your finances and health, but some people who overeat or overspend are Sp-firsts who are unhealthy and triggered in that area. Others would say Sp is about personal fortitude, self-possession, knowing when to shut up, etc.

Some would say "Sx" is about being horny, lonely, or wanting so desperately to find The One. To that I'd say, I know Sx-lasts who are plenty lonely and horny - and doesn't everyone want to meet "The One?"

Some would say "Soc" is about group participation, or can manifest as extreme antisocial sentiments. Others would say it's about a wider awareness of world affairs. Others would say it's about contemplating one's role in the group, but it doesn't have to be about socializing, or even wanting to socialize.

So, what in the hell are these things?

And what about the stackings? What do they look like in the last and middle position?

I made this thread to exchange ideas and vent thoughts. I want to hear thoughts also from people who aren't sure, or are still thinking about it; just as much as people who have firm ideas. I have read all the basics and books by most of the enneagram authors; I've read the typical explanations a thousand times. I am interested in what doesn't sit right FOR YOU, and your own experience, and things that confuse you, as well as themes you have noticed which don't match the "more normal" interpretation, and comparisons between the literature and what you feel is accurate.

I had a bunch of my own thoughts but I keep overriding them with better concepts and now I'm just confused.

So I'd rather open this up to anyone who is confused OR has input. Also feel free to be self-referential - discuss why you type your instincts the way you do, and what might be tentative about your typing, if anything.

Feel free to use other forum members as examples or mention why they type someone at a certain instinct. I am giving my consent for anyone to type me at any instinct or stacking, if you know me. I'm "Animal" from Perc & Typoc. I may start posting here more. (And I am very displeased that another @Animal stole my name here. RAWR! >:[ )

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jeudi 26 mai 2016

LSE-EII conversations

Inspired by @sapphire thread

LSE: I want to get my old electric scooter going again. This is fast. It's been sitting out in the garage for too long it's time to get it going. I'll have to buy (starts naming off all the parts) and I've ordered (takes inventory of the parts).

EII: Are you going to paint it?

LSE: NO. I'm going to leave it as it is.

EII. (Thinks to myself...yeah right! I'll keep track of when he changes his mind on that.

One week later
LSE: I painted it to MATCH my car, my motorcycle and my plane.

EII: LOL I was wondering when that was going to happen.

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mardi 24 mai 2016

star wars : tfa - something i like

i really put off watching this film and i'd sort of decided not to bother watching it... but i changed my mind and did, and i was surprised to find something i liked. (i have plenty of issues with this film, but i'm not talking about them in this post and they're all boring to me anyway.)

shockingly (sarcasm) what i liked was... the bad guy kylo ren (i will just have to endure the bad names in star wars, and frankly it could have been worse).

usually i like the sort of twisted and conflicted bad guy because you can see the capacity for empathy in the character, and so watching it win out in little moments even though his larger agenda is terrible, is satisfying. it's probably because it gives hope for redemption, even if redemption is unlikely. but i suppose it is that part of me wants to reach in and grab the compassion i see and expose it. so i kind of want to save the bad guy; or in the least to console myself with the twisted image of love and hate.

in the case of kylo ren's character there is a similar draw in that he is conflicted throughout the film. however, i don't really have much hope of redemption for the character (which i’m actually quite pleased about). i think that as much as he was influenced and manipulated from a young age by snoke (horribly stupid name that makes me cringe), ben solo did choose the dark side for himself. he has personal investment in this, and he is informed in his choice (unlike anakin). ben probably grew up hearing all about the force and the light & the dark side thanks to uncle luke. since he has the entire story of anakin, he is not hapless or ignorant. he *chooses* his evil grandfather as his role model/father figure: vader is who he admires and aspires to be like. it doesn’t really matter *why* he was vulnerable to this (re: a lonely child whose parents didn’t have enough time for him) because he could have drawn from anywhere to sustain himself (rey was a lonely & neglected child too). he chooses the dark side because it’s what he feels most at home with in terms of his identity.

this is exciting because it's a different sort of vader-ish character than we’ve seen in the films. the story of anakin skywalker was more one in which the road to hell was paved in good intentions (although i thought he was a bit of a self-centered little shit as a child, but never mind that!). of course, anakin ultimately wanted the power but i don’t think he really knew that (unlike kylo ren who is quite aware of how much he wants power). still, anakin was driven by what started out as arguably "good" motivations (saving his mother, saving padmé, and wanting to end the disorganized bullshit in the republic that was leading to war). he didn't want the dark side but he ended up with it. to vader, the dark side is a burden ("you do not know the power of the dark side. i *must* obey my master." are the words of a slave). this is a character who was born a slave and spends his entire life serving one master or another, unable to ever realize anything of what *he* wants (it’s the total opposite of the drive of the sith, who are covetous and desirous). luke is vader’s salvation. not only does luke give vader the strength to turn back to the good side; but in doing so, he frees his father from a lifetime of servitude.

kylo ren hasn’t been subverted by his “master” (who he sees as more of a mentor anyway) in the way vader was. anakin gave himself to palpatine so he could learn how to conquer his fear of loss, but from his point of view he was just trying to save padmé. palpatine, however, never had any intention of helping him with that and was later pleased to learn that padmé was dead (he wanted to maneuver anakin into ending her himself because it would chain anakin to him). he sadistically enjoyed tasking anakin with destroying everything he loved (the very things anakin was always trying to save). anakin didn’t know that with every task he was only building the bars on what would be his cage for the next 30 years. he even ends up trapped in a mechanical suit for the rest of his days—broken physically as well as psychologically. it’s a terrible betrayal and anakin (a moron as far as i’m concerned) was clearly duped by palpatine.

kylo ren is more of an authentic sith than vader ever was (and the first humanly relatable “true” sith to appear in the films). the dark side is not a burden for kylo ren that he must sacrifice himself to almost against his will; it’s the source of his strength and what he draws from to fully realize his identity (although like all sith he *is* willing to sacrifice himself to it in his recklessness, but that is by *choice*). like palpatine, snoke tasks kylo with terrible deeds, but there’s an important difference. kylo ren agrees, imo, that he must kill his father han solo so he can more fully realize himself. he isn’t being duped into murdering his loved ones—he is very much involved in choosing this path for himself. this is why han was always doomed. nothing he could say would have ever brought his son back in the way leia wanted. han was right when he said that he and leia lost their son forever (more or less). (i don’t know why leia was such a hopelessly sappy person in this film. not that i think she would want her son dead or not want him back, but i was shocked by what she told han to do. how idiotic.)

the relationship between kylo ren and snoke differs in many ways from that between vader and the emperor. kylo sees snoke as a source of wisdom about the dark side (as a mentor or guide) and as a way to build his skills. unlike the emperor who doesn’t teach vader anything at all (other than pain and submission), snoke is actively teaching and training kylo. i suspect this is because it’s actually the only way he can get kylo into his service. kylo wants something in return (more power with the dark side and more abilities) and it’s not worth it to him if he doesn’t get that. kylo is actually growing as a person (in a terrible way), unlike vader who was trapped in stagnation. he is using snoke as much as snoke is using him (the relationship is surprisingly more equal, or at least, symbiotic). it’s a relationship of mentor/pupil rather than one of master/slave. perhaps this is in part because snoke doesn’t have to fool and swindle kylo to the extent palpatine had to fool anakin (not anymore, anyway). kylo is actually a “worthy pupil” who is committed to the dark path and wants it of his own intrinsic motivation.

however, since this is a relationship on the dark side between two very power hungry individuals who both seek at worst domination and at best freedom to achieve all they desire, it can probably only end in one of them destroying the other. when han warns kylo that snoke is only using him, kylo doesn’t bring forth any objection. in the script it says he knows han is right. snoke is not honest. as much as he trains kylo, he doesn’t do right by him. he is still in fact manipulating kylo in subtle ways. i personally think that snoke is kind of a foolish person who underestimates his star pupil, and once kylo surpasses him and sees how foolish he is, kylo and the other knights of ren will kill him. i would really like to see this in the second movie in fact. we already know the way in which kylo uses people (it’s the same way the dark side uses its devotees): he *consumes* them. once he’s taken everything he can from a father (han) or a mentor (snoke) he sacrifices them on the altar of his own power. perhaps when he finally realizes enough of his identity he’ll even sacrifice (finish consuming) his idol: grandpa. vader’s skull/helmet is like dumbo’s magic feather until kylo can be swift and sure with his own wings.

the scene in which kylo kills han was beautifully twisted. he implores his dad to help him find the strength to kill him so he can more fully realize his dark path. he’s not killing him for emotional reasons, like hatred or vengeance, or because he believes han deserves it (even though he long ago rejected his father). no, this is a necessary step on the path he’s committed to and at his current level he’s not sure he has it in him (yet). this is a child appealing to his father to help him grow as a person (but since it’s on the dark side it is all twisted and sick—and i thought it was oh so effectively portrayed). also, he feels this is what his disappointment of a father owes him (the only thing of value left to give him). to me, this scene seals the question of whether or not kylo ren can be “redeemed.” he cannot. you can’t redeem someone against their will, not without a heavy course of manipulation (that probably no one has the means or understanding to carry out).

this also clearly sets kylo as a very different sort of person than vader. anakin was responsible for padmé’s death though he didn’t really want to kill her. he didn’t know what the dark side would do to him; he couldn’t see through his twisted illusions to truth; and he couldn’t control his temper. it was an accident, basically. later a more mature vader, when pushed to the choice of the emperor/the dark side -or- his own son, chooses to save his son. he does this because regardless of everything that has happened and how destroyed he is, he still loves (and for him, his love takes precedence). but when kylo is pushed to this same choice—the dark side or his father—he chooses the dark side. and it’s worse: he already chose it long ago. this is pre-planned. kylo’s been waiting for the day when he will consume his father at last and become more powerful as a result, for a long time. i even thought that as han falls into the abyss and kylo is filled with emotion, that he’s more mourning his former self than he is his father. he’s saying goodbye to the boy who loved his father, who wanted his father’s attention and approval, who wanted to look up to his dad, etc. he’s also feeling all his pain and conflict about this (flicker out?) that he hopes to cure by merging further with the dark side.

he wants the pain to end more than he cares about han. it’s heartbreaking to see him take everything from han in order to grow in power. the vulnerable boy who feels and hurts shows his face again and let’s han for this brief moment have his son back. he gives han everything he asks for—he takes off the helmet, he shows his face and heart… and then he feels entirely justified in consuming han into himself, and he *thanks* him for his sacrifice.

this is a creature of the dark side. it is not a redeemable creature. it’s just rather thrilling to me to finally have a “true sith” as it were. i hope the movie makers don’t fuck it up. (they will. )

another interesting piece of this is of course rey and finn (the two orphans) and how they fit into this. i hope they both fit into kylo ren’s backstory actually.

i think that rey's vision involving her abandonment on jakku and linked with images of kylo ren reveals more about the past than the future. she was one of the kids in luke's school and on the night that the knights of ren (led by kylo) killed everyone, he spared her. he even killed one of the other knights to save her. after this, he had to scramble to hide her somewhere. this is why she was left with a junk dealer. if luke or leia were behind abandoning rey, i would have expected it to be way more organized. they would have found someone to raise her properly (not a junk dealer). whoever left rey with the junk dealer on jakku was reckless and didn't have a lot of time (barely knew what the fuck they were doing). (of course, it could be that after the first order began killing kids with force abilities that rey's family actually abandoned her in haste like floating your baby down a river in the hope it will survive. but i don't think that's necessary when we can use kylo to explain it and make it more meaningful to the story that way.)

as to why kylo saved rey, i'm not sure. one possibility is that kylo and rey are related by blood. we see how hard it is for kylo to make himself kill his father in the movie. so if we imagine a 16-18 year old kylo tasked with killing a little girl in his family, it makes complete sense that he wouldn’t have been able to do it (wouldn’t have *wanted* to do it). another possibility is that whether they are related or not, he saved her because she was a child and he wasn't able to get himself to slaughter helpless little kids (unlike a certain other young man who turned to the dark side). this possibility is interesting because it could mean that rey wasn't the only one who kylo spared that night. if finn turns out to have powers with the force, it could be that kylo spared him as well.

i don't know who the knights of ren are or how they formed (before snoke or after). but for kylo to save anyone, the other knights would need to agree to keep it a secret. i think the easier explanation is that together the knights agreed about who they wouldn't kill (they were all teenagers and maybe most of them weren't okay killing little kids. or maybe they wanted to add to their order in the future and recognized the waste in killing the talented). this would explain how it's okay that kylo killed the supposed knight who was about to kill little rey. the knights had already agreed, but this one in particular went back on the agreement. he might go to snoke and reveal everything. all the knights would agree he has to die in this case, so no one would turn against kylo's leadership for killing him. it wouldn't cost any loyalties since this person betrayed all of the knights, not just kylo.

kylo ren is very personal when it comes to both the characters of rey and finn (he sees them both as *his*). in the beginning of the film, he senses finn’s total panic and unwillingness to kill innocent villagers on jakku (finn’s choice that he will not kill for the first order), but kylo takes no action in response. he keeps it to himself until it's revealed later that a storm trooper helped the resistance pilot escape. then he reveals that he even knows this stormtrooper's six digit designation. does he know every stormtrooper's designation, or just this ones? he shouts "traitor!" at finn at the end of the movie with extreme emotion. why is he taking this so personally? well… if he saved finn's life at luke’s school and hid him among the stormtrooper trainees only to have finn turn on him later (as he sees it), i can see how he'd take that personally. it's also notable that kylo doesn't kill finn in the fight at the end. he doesn't even apparently permanently maim or cripple him. it seems that his objective isn't only to capture rey but to capture finn as well? he could have done far worse than he did with finn. even his sadistic act of burning finn with the vent of his lightsaber is aimed at finn’s shoulder (where it won’t do as much permanent damage as it would if aimed at, say, his face). and i already think that kylo is evil enough to kill anyone he wants to kill—so i don’t think it’s an accident that finn is still alive at the end of the film.

the other moments of extreme emotional upset we see from kylo concern rey, beginning with how once he hears a girl helped finn and the droid escape jakku, he’s all “WHAT GIRL” upon choking threat of death. i realize it’s been a very frustrating day, but i think this moment is significant. he attaches significance to this “girl” before he really knows anything about her, which would make total sense if he happened to leave a girl on jakku years ago to hide her. if he saved finn too, and it turns out there’s this perfect alignment where the two kids he saved before (and possibly intended to use later) and the droid he wants, all come together… i can see that this turn of events would be of extreme significance to him. also, any force user knows through all the visions they have that events are always weaved together in meaningful ways. there are few “coincidences” if any at all. it must then also be frustrating that hux’s men don’t do any digging and only provide kylo the vaguest information ever.

(naturally, the choking scene harkens to vader who also found most of the imperial personnel to be blind and daft. i don’t really want kylo to do the vader thing though in the second movie unless done in the right way. we’ve seen it before so it would just be boring if repeated, and i think that kylo is psychologically perceptive enough to realize that if you scare the shit out of people or expect nothing short of perfection, that they can’t perform. in the film he tends to take his anger out on things more than people, and hopefully the trend will continue. what i could see happening is that after he and the other knights dispatch with snoke and hux, certain other officers are eliminated too? i see kylo ren as more of a mass killings sort of person anyway.)

in the interrogation scene with rey, kylo is interested in who rey is as a person. i think this is his style in general (hints of this are in the interrogation of po earlier), but i think it’s also because he’s trying to answer the question “are you who i think you are?” it’s also notable that kylo adopts kind of the role of a teacher in this scene. he wants to know rey’s innermost hopes and fears (who she is) so he can reach at her in the right way. when she tells him she won’t give him the map, he says, “we’ll see.” he is copying snoke’s style in this—earlier snoke challenges kylo’s assertion than han solo means nothing to him with a “we’ll see.” my interpretation also was that once rey begins using the force to resist kylo (he is not at *all* surprised by this btw, again supporting he already knows who she is), he seems to encourage or invite this. part of this is because kylo enjoys dominating his victim but i think it’s also that he’s allowing her the opportunity to practice and try out her abilities. he didn’t intend for her to get the upper hand on him, but blind arrogance and over-estimation of one’s abilities or under-estimation of an adversary’s, is a failing of most sith. it’s terrible that he actually repeats this *same* mistake at the end of the movie. twice in a row.

my impression of kylo ren is that he likes a more collaborative approach with the dark side. i suspect the knights of ren are kind of his knights of the round table in his dark camelot. rey and finn were people he wanted to add to the order eventually, but he knew snoke wanted everyone in luke’s training school dead so he had to keep them a secret. he doesn’t kill either of them, or seem to want to, and especially adopts a role as instructor with rey. you could argue he gave finn plenty of chances too (he held back), but he was more angry with finn for “turning on him.” although kylo ren isn’t as blind as anakin was—the interrogation scenes reveal that he is capable of clearly seeing a person without warping them to his own twisted interpretations, and can understand them *as they are*—he still suffers from a distorted vision as do all sith. rey’s friends (han, chewy and finn) are murderers, traitors and thieves according to him (*they* are the ones in the wrong—not kylo and the first order who burn entire villages to the ground and slaughter all inhabitants). in justifying what he does to himself, he allocates blame. his overpowering desires determine who is to blame.

i think that kylo's actions towards rey and finn make sense if he thinks of them as not only *his* but as two people destined for his order: the knights of ren. i imagine loyalty is incredibly important in the knights of ren. these are sith who agree to operate as one. treachery means death, but kylo is still trying to induct rey and finn, so it’s not death for them… yet. also, if this is how the knights work, it only really shows how informed they are. kylo knows that the pattern with the sith doesn’t work out often beyond one short-lived and failed regime. there’s always a master and apprentice and one eventually kills the other, leaving the “victor” to be overcome by foes. the knights of ren are an attempt to organize differently. this is another reason why i would really like to see how the first order would operate if kylo and the knights are running it, rather than snoke. to see a “true sith” who isn’t a darth sidious type (who isn’t 100% evil, though still a very bad person) and not from some ancient generation stuck in its ways, would be great.

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No type fits me ! help me find my type !

Hey guys, so for the longest time i've been reading and analysing typology but haven't been able to type myself, i started with the quadra's, but wasn't able to narrow it down, i looked at the functions, but wasn't able to narrow it down, i even read the various positions but as no surprise, wasn't able to narrow it down. So i think it’s time to ask for help. I’m not doing the usual basic thing and answer a questionnaire, but I will talk about how I relate to each of the functions. So I’ll paste descriptions from wikisocion about the function in the base, creative, mobilising and suggestive position and talk about how I relate to them.

**coloured paragraphs are the descriptions of the functions, my impressions are in black**

Si
As a base function
“A strong ability to recognize internal physical states in themselves and others, to understand how these states are reached, and to recreate and avoid these physical states.
Individuals who possess Si
as a base function are drawn to situations that satisfy their inner physical experience. Whenever Si base function individuals are taking part in something that involves recognizing, recreating, or analysing physical states, they feel a great deal of personal power and enthusiasm.”

LOL, well I know my internal states, I know when I’m hungry, tired and stuff like that, but I can really push it to the extreme. For example, I can be on youtube till 3:00 am in the morning when I have to wake up at 7:00 am, and the thing is, I know I need to sleep, but I’ll literally refuse to turn my laptop off, or I may need to pee, but I just cant be bothered to get up. Once I was so into a storytime video, I forgot/couldn’t be bothered to eat till it was 12:00am, Once I had a nasty headache and I had my light on full brightness while my laptop was on full brightness, I completely over looked the fact that was making my headache worse, another one for you, for like a month i was complaining about being super hot during the night and my mum said its because you're wearing socks to sleep, i didn't even realise So yeah

“Feelings of internal discomfort can arise from a tense psychological atmosphere, working too hard and sapping the body's resources, being pressured by other people or by numerous "things to do," and from unsatiated or oversatiated physical needs. These types tend to quickly recognize and be quite vocal about discomfort that arises and either take clever measures to dissipate it or simply get out of whatever is bothering them.”

“Feelings of internal discomfort can arise from a tense psychological atmosphere”< I relate to that a lot. I've noticed when I have loads of things to do I go into beast mode and want to do It all and don’t even realise I’m subjecting myself to discomfort (not eating, sleeping or peeing) until days later and I have a nasty headache. While in the moment of that discomfort I’ll be very quiet about it and will shrug it off, or I wont realise it’s a discomfort and I’ll be hurting myself them my mum would say “you look like you’re in pain do you need help” then I’ll realise I’m going through a discomfort, but until after days I’ll become a big baby and start complaining about it when it isn't that deep any more.

Si leading types are constantly adjusting themselves to their environment (which includes the people around them), and rarely have any fixed ideas about what is "appropriate" to desire in a given situation. Thus they are willing to accommodate other people's needs in an ad hoc manner. It is enough for something to "feel right" for them to justify doing it. This behaviour may seem random to outside observers, since it is concomitant with weak Ni.

“adjusting themselves to their environment”, I don’t get this, adjusting in what way ? “"appropriate" to desire in a given situation.” I don’t get his either. “It is enough for something to "feel right" for them to justify doing it” This is going to sound contradictory, but, I “feel” like I do this a lot, but I can’t think of any examples…

My general impression of Si is very weak and complain-ey

As a creative function
The individual is attuned to people's tastes and personal preferences and likes to do things for or give things to friends and family members that will cause them to enjoy themselves and gain pleasure.
For example, taking them out to do something they enjoy, or finding opportunities and people with whom they can pursue their hobbies.

I thought it was normal to give your friends and family things they like, If I know my best friend jack likes to collect post cards, it wouldn't become my life goal to collect post cards for him, but if I went on holiday and saw a post card I’ll buy it for him becasue i know he likes them.

As a mobilising function.
The individual has difficulty producing pleasurable sensory experiences for others and for himself, but likes to talk about pleasure, enjoyment, and relaxation, hoping that someone nearby will take the hint and take the lead.

Well I don’t believe in hints, and subliminal messages, if you want something ask for it.

As a suggestive function
the individual tends to be chronically unaware of his own bodily processes, including physiological sensations and a sense of balance and alignment with one's true desires. He sometimes has peculiar preferences or tastes, which he himself is unable to understand or fulfill.

Umm, I don’t know, “a sense of balance and alignment” huh ? I do know I have very weird taste and a very weird way of eating things.

The individual almost never emphasizes his attractiveness or sexuality overtly and publicly, but dreams of being pleasing to the senses to at least a small circle of trusted friends and partners who are able to develop and enhance his sexuality and attractiveness in a trusting atmosphere.

I never have, nor do I think i ever will “dream of” that, that has not crossed my mind.

Ne
As a base function
The individual is skilled at generating intellectual interest and curiosity in others and using others' curiosity to get them to do things.
He easily sees parallels between different situations, areas of knowledge or skill, and people, and likes to establish contacts across different fields of knowledge and social groups, which allows him to be part of many things at once. He enjoys considering differing viewpoints and perspectives and seeing if they can be reconciled.

This is 110% me, I compare and see loads of similarities and difference between everything. I’ve always been an "everywhere" kind of person, I’ve always had friends everywhere, across loads of different social groups, that’s why I was known to be a gossiper in school because I was friends and new so much about other people in school. I have to admit I’m guilty of taking very controversial sides and opinions just to hear another view point, I also love to probe people to think in another viewpoint, I pretty much understand everything, I always "get" the point someone is trying to make and can always understand where everyone is coming from. I can see how everyone Is basically agreeing and disagreeing with each other. I’ve also noticed im "everywhere", in the sense that I have varying interests, I love psychology, but also really like ghetto reality TV, i enjoy celebrity gossip, but also like reading the dictionary, i'll be happy listening to heavy trap music, but at the same time have open another tab about the newest technologies and new patents apple has for their new phones. nobody could every say i was an arty kid, or the tech kid, or the cool kid, becasue i was and still am everywhere with very vast interests.

He enjoys the beginning stages of just about anything - new projects, acquiring new skills, experiencing new people and relationships. Preparing for and launching something new is seen as having greater value than the process of experiencing what one already has and finishing what one has begun. The concept of "finishing" seems foreign to him. Instead of taking care to finish things and tie up all loose ends, he tends to drop things when he can't handle them any longer or realize that he has neglected them for too long (this might be equally related to suggestive introverted sensing).

LOOOOOOOL, so basically that is my life, I love the “new” process of everything, especially the people and relationships, I like meeting new people because it’s a new adventure, its like a new toy. For me the thought alone is good enough, I can think up a whole new elaborate project, but by the time it comes to implementation and follow through is very hard for me, damn to even start is a struggle, I can drop everything if I can’t be bothered with it, then all of a sudden im back into that project.

As a creative function

the individual likes to apply his insight to specific situations, relating them to the bigger picture. He also enjoys discussing idealized circumstances or what could be rather than what is.

YES YES YES, nothing gets me more excited than imagining and “what if” ,i'm such a child, but let me be real, they get me so excited and I just cant help myself I do it with everyone, just thinking about it is getting me excited

Consequently, he usually has high standards, even unreasonably so, for those around him.
He does not pursue ideas or new opportunities merely for their own sake, but for their application to specific questions and issues that he feels are important.

This is another one where I feel like I have high standards for myself and others, but I cant think of any examples.

As a SUGGESTIVE function

He rarely emphasizes his talents, unique experience, or singularity publicly, but prefers to seem like "your average guy" so that others can relate to him easily. However, he is more open about his unique attributes in close personal relationships.

This is a tricky one, I’ve always wanted to be noticed and actually quite liked being noticed but the initial idea of it is really uncomfortable for me and I find it weird, generally though I don’t mind being acknowledged, when that happens I get a certain feeling of “YES that was really me!!”

He is sensitive about his talents and uniqueness because so often uniqueness creates distance between people rather than closeness. He dreams of having his uniqueness recognized, welcomed, and fostered by a close group, but "just in case" avoids emphasizing his uniqueness and talents in new or large group situations

As my confidence has grown, I’ve been able to tell people what im good at

Since he finds it difficult to identify what unique talents he has, this often results in a tendency to avoid setting long-term career goals.

I wouldn't say I avoid it, I greatly welcome it, its just that i'm really indecisive and kind of like something one minute then don’t like it the next.

Ti
As a BASE function
The individual views reality through the lens of logic, immediately recognizing the correctness and appropriateness of things and their proper place in reality and in his system of views and behaviour
. He freely makes logical assertions, often exaggerated, about new information and experience. He holds highest those rules to which exceptions do not exist, and is a habitual critic of people or things that don't follow a set of rules, whether they are those accepted by the community, or his own, or even the other person's. Although he is able to adopt others' rules, his own are always the last word, and these are subject to continual refinement.

Umm, so I hate when people don’t follow rules in a game, nothing annoys me more than that, I also get really annoyed when people don’t follow simple rules that make sense.

Often seen as "demanding", due to high standards.

Kinda.

As a CREATIVE function
“The individual easily generates logical systems and formulations to explain a set of phenomena that he has experienced or studied”.

I like to think I’m logical, I like to explain my experience through the lenses of logic…I think, tbh I’m not sure

As a MOBILISNG function.
The individual seeks clarity in his system of beliefs and understanding and enjoys entertaining new concepts and being included in philosophical discussions where new concepts and systems of thought are introduced.

I think I like listening to them, they’re interesting, but I don’t generally insert an opinion because I don’t want to sound dumb, also I tend to get bored after a while, however I do love to debate… anything

He is uncertain of the logical clarity backing his actions, and thus seeks external assistance in attaining a degree of reasonable competence in this realm. Structure is sought as more of a means to an end, a background guide to facilitate the growth of the individual's main goal.
This is another one, I like to think I follow logic in my life, but I cant think of any examples i dont think i pay that much attention to logical coherence on my decision and life, so I guess this is a no.

As a SUGGESTIVE function
The individual has great admiration for people with well-developed systems of views. He especially likes clear and concise explanations of concepts, rather than a lot of background information about them that is not directly pertinent.

That is everything me no need to elaborate on that. Nothing annoys me more than extra information here and there
.
He wants his actions to make sense, and thus needs external assurance that the conceptual understanding behind them is correct. If he cannot find a source of certainty, he may become flustered and unable to act rationally at all.

I think im quite rational, especially when it comes to my own emotions especially, when im angry, I think through it rationally and understand why i'm angry and if its really necessary to be angry and stuff like that so I guess so.

Fe
As a BASE function
he individual is always in tune to the emotional flow surrounding him, and responds to it spontaneously and directly. He seeks out and creates activities where people are totally engaged in what they are doing. Something's value is directly tied to how much it arouses his or another's passion.
This is kind of what I was saying about Si, something becomes more valuable to you when you know it makes someone else happy, I know that jack likes postcards , so whenever I see postcards I pick it up for him, that has now become more valuable, so I guess yes, also everything yes about the emotional flow, i can literally see it and feel the feeling,lol.

He is highly proactive about steering the emotional flow in the direction he himself considers ideal to a given situation. He may, for example, try to cheer people with jokes if he sees that they are too gloomy or, conversely, to get people to be serious and concentrated if they are too carefree during a crisis situation. Nevertheless, he believes emotions should be expressed as honestly as possible.
Yesssssss, I do that all the time, I try my hardest to push people to the most appropriate thing, I think emotions should so be expressed truthfully, that’s why I hate people that don’t contribute and get involved in things because I think they’re holding back

As a CREATIVE function
The person is sensitive to the emotional atmosphere around him, either from an individual, or a group, or even from inanimate objects such as the landscape, the state of the physical environment he happens to be in, or his own emotional associations with the place or people around him
Yeah
A positive emotional atmosphere is essential for his sense of well being and inner peace, and he either tries to promote it himself by directly influencing it around him, or by simply moving away from the environment or the people causing a negative emotional environment in his view.

Im kinda good at diffusing negative emotional atmospheres, like in the base function, I just become very silly and soften the tension, however if I want to amp up the feeling I can do that, once some guy in my school got really bad grades and I didn't really like him, so I busted out laughing and said "well i'm sorry but you get what you deserved" and everyone started laughing.
Another thing I can do is bring someone in my enthusiasm, or join someone else's enthusiasm, then use that to get what i want, or i can deny someone the emotional response they want and bring down the emotional atmosphere which does annoy people.

Ni
As a BASE function
Ni generally manifests itself through a lack of direct attention to the world around oneself, and a sense of detachment or freedom from worldly affairs. This can lead to a highly developed imagination and very unique mental world, but it can also result in a great deal of laziness and apparent inactivity.

My internal world is my fave, I’ve been told i'm very lazy, my dad always has to point out that im not urgent enough

Because the individual gets his or her primary information about the world through imagination, a person with base [IMG]http://file/C:/Users/OLUWAT~1/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG] may be able to thrive in situations where data are scarce, or where he or she lacks the usual prerequisite experience. However, this may also become a disadvantage if the person ignores real data about the world too much.

I get annoyed when data is scares so that isn't me, I most definitely don’t ignore real life data, that’s why I live for

The ability to transcend the axis of time and understand the cause and effect relationships that occur is also a feature, sometimes resulting in the ability to accurately predict general future trends and outcomes of certain events.

I can do that, I generally like to think about it in my head and im usually right, then when it happens in real life I say “I knew it “ but nobody believes me

As a CREATIVE function

The individual likes to predict the further development of the situations and topics that he is interested in.

Mhm like I said before

The individual applies his highly developed sense of vision not as an end in itself, but as a way of promoting the development of his more central interests and activities

Um I guess.

As a MOBILISING function
The individual periodically needs an outside evaluation of how a situation is likely to develop in order to keep from worrying excessively.

I tend to ask even though I know what's going to happens, I guess I ask just for another perspective or to back up my initial prediction

Se
As a BASE function
The individual feels at home among people who are actively doing something and interacting with each other directly (visibly), and is able to organize people, move them around as necessary, and guide them in achieving a specific goal. He or she likes obedience and even subservience in others, since it allows him to "make things happen" more effectively.

LOL, im not that imposing, don’t really like obedience, I like people that challenge me,i think everyone should do what they want, so that’s a no

He is keenly aware of territorial conflicts and confrontational behavior occurring around him. He very quickly becomes confrontational when others try to make him move or get him to do something in an aggressive or confrontational way. He quickly recognizes when people are trying to get each other to do something or are trying to organize him for some purpose. He also spontaneously uses aggression to achieve his own goals.

No, I don’t generally look for confrontation, but only when i'm bored, then I’ll be very confrontational, but when its serious i'm really scared of it, but i wont show that i am, I’ll stand up to it. aggression to achieve my goals ? No.

He wants to make all decisions himself about what he will do, wear, eat, look like, etc., and resents any attempts by others to make these decisions for him. However, he is willing to make use of other peoples' ideas, advice, and creativity, as long as he plays the most visible role.

Lol I do like making my own decisions but I think its better when others make it for me because when have the opportunity to make my own decisions, i'm really indecisive and I waste time.

As a creative function
The individual does not generally seek out confrontation, but he is also not afraid of it.

mhm

He takes his responsibilities seriously and tends to perform them diligently and with care. He expects the same of others.

That is me ^^

As a mobilising function

The individual tends to feel capable of achieving his goals, but hesitates on whether the path he is choosing is the right one. In these cases he needs to feel the support of others in order to be motivated to finally choose.

That is me all in one. I need a lot of motivation to achieve something it requires constant prodding.

He likes to be involved in competitive and challenging endeavors and to see his will and personal power develop as he overcomes obstacles together with other people. However, he depends on others to provide the gusto and motivation for these endeavors.

This is all me, I love competition and very "us vs them" games, the feeling of a team fighting for success is so good, but yes as the last line mentions I need a to take the forefront in such situations

As a suggestive function

the individual is often characterized by his inertia. If left to his own devices, he may choose to do relatively little to interact with the outside world.

This is true to an extent, I can be very lazy and not do anything I my life

To this individual, life is often characterized by periods of stimulation. For him, however, true stimulation is often spontaneous, and interludes between periods of stimulation are often characterized by tedium, inertia, and apathy. He is often not very adept at finding new areas of interest, and may seek to continue to reproduce past experiences instead of moving on to new things. In order to break out of this cycle, he requires an outside stimulus of spontaneity and activity. With such a degree of spontaneity introduced into his life, the tedium and perceived meaninglessness is replaced by a constant state of activity in which he can experience new things and escape from the confines of his own mind.

Not me

He is additionally very indecisive. He may lack the ability to make important decisions, especially with regards to his own future. He may know what he wants to achieve out of life in a broad or long term sense, but will find it very difficult to set and finish the short term projects leading to it. In order to be able to act, he needs a tangible and definite stimulus from somebody well grounded in external reality and who has a clear picture of what must be done in a certain situation.

This it a lot like me, I relate a lot to this, I need constant pushing and motivation

Fi
As a base function
The individual sees reality primarily through static personal ethics and stable interpersonal bonds between individuals, including himself, where the status of such interpersonal bonds is determined by his personal ethics. The individual is very confident in evaluating the ethical or moral qualities, and their consistency, of other people. This makes the individual seem "judgemental" or "self-righteous" to people less so inclined
I feel like im not like this, but in reality I think I do that a lot, maybe secretly.

If he has difficulty in deciding the status of a personal relationship, he will take action to try to reach a conclusion but if that continues to elude him, he will regard the relationship as not worth it.

Um, I don’t think I’ll regard it as not worth it, I may just keep it as a side relationship even though I know it isn’t working out

His own sense of constancy in personal ethics and in his relationships with others is a very strong factor in his sense of self-worth.

no

Fi in this position implies the ability to almost instantly recognize whether someone is a friend or an enemy, whether they are demonstrating good will or ill will, and whether they are drawn to or repelled by the individual.

I think I do this by myself, but don’t tell people im thinking that, so this make seem fake or whatever, if im repelled by and individual It doesn’t change the fact I’ll still smile and talk with them

As a creative function

The individual is very adept at perceiving, establishing, and maintaining personal bonds between people. However, these bonds are often perceived as being situational and flexible rather than static. The individual is inclined to focus on establishing personal bonds with other people in the context of realizing or following perceptions from his base function.
The person easily creates a sense of closeness and kinship between people by expressing like and acceptance, but these sentiments are situational rather than an expression of permanent feelings. If the person's mood or external situation changes, he or she may "turn off" the feelings instantly, even forgetting whom they had created the feeling of kinship with.

Well I cant just cut someone of, or as the website puts it nicely “turn off” the relationship, that has been one of the hardest things to do, I’ve always said im to accepting I cant just cut someone out, however I can create closeness with a person when I actually like them, or when I need something

Te
as a base function

Extroverted logic as base function is manifested as a need to accumulate factual information, also from external sources such as books, second-hand information, etc, on matters of personal interest or of professional activity. This also gives these types confidence on being well-informed on the same matters, which enables them to enter arguments related to them with confidence on their knowledge, which may come across as arrogance to others.

I thought it was normal to collect information on subjects areas you’re interested in, I certainly do that, it isn’t a matter of confidence, but if that topic was to ever come up I know I’ll be ready to defend myself

Another manifestation is an evaluation of external reality - work activities, world events, finances, procedures, personal relationships, conversations - from the point of view of factual accuracy and "making sense" and efficiency. It leads to an inclination to be proactive in increasing the efficiency and reasonableness of the external world, as well as a sense of self-worth connected on being involved and productive in activities seen as useful, profitable, or that increase one's knowledge base. To give out information that the individual knows not to be factually accurate is disturbing and avoided as much as possible

Not always, if something needs to be done I cant be all about efficiency, but in general i'm quite lazy and don’t focus on efficiency, rather i'm a quite inefficient person, I do loads of silly mistakes and waste time and slip up on loads of things so I guess this doesn't describe me

As a creative function
It is manifested as a preference for factual accuracy over ideological consistency, and for objective, "harsh" communication over careful words that avoid a negative atmosphere.

I'm really harsh when im being funny or joking, or when im really into something and enjoy something,however it isn’t something I focus on or enjoy doing when im being serious, I quite like the thought of being harsh, but in reality i'm a very nice person until you get to know me then my hasher side comes out

A view of the external environment being efficient, reasonable, and making sense is essential to their well-being and sense of inner peace, but they do not feel a pressing need for being proactive or productive themselves in that area.

I like things to make sense and it really makes me happy, but if I cant do it then I just drop it and focus on something else.

As a mobilising function
The individual is keen on accumulating factual knowledge on subjects of personal interest and those that help him be more efficient and productive,
Isn’t that normal
but he's often unsure of his ability to find and select the correct information and is therefore attracted to people whom he sees as competent in that area and reassure him.

Im not sure, I haven’t observe that

As a suggestive function
The individual is attracted to people seen as knowledgeable, as well as truthful and willing to share that knowledge, in matters seen as interesting and useful to the individual towards achieving productivity and efficiency.

Um I like listening to knowledge when its in front of me

Reliable information rather than the finished analysis is what attracts the individual; facts and explanations, not answers limited to the conclusions. For the same reason, the individual avoids people who are inclined to give out unreliable or simply untruthful information.

I haven’t met anyone who likes to listen to unreliable information, or who enjoys listening to false information

The individual tends to neglect to think about the productivity of his actions and unconsciously relies on others to give him directions and advice about the best, most productive ways of doing things.

I directly ask for the best way to do things, no need to waste time doing that’s the wrong way, i'm sure there's a right way to do things even thought I may not be able to think of them myself

He has difficulties measuring how much work he has done, whether it is sufficient, and how much it is actually worth. The individual admires people who are aware of the productivity of their actions and are always trying to do something rational and worthwhile.

I don’t have this problem

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