Hey guys, so for the longest time i've been reading and analysing typology but haven't been able to type myself, i started with the quadra's, but wasn't able to narrow it down, i looked at the functions, but wasn't able to narrow it down, i even read the various positions but as no surprise, wasn't able to narrow it down. So i think it’s time to ask for help. I’m not doing the usual basic thing and answer a questionnaire, but I will talk about how I relate to each of the functions. So I’ll paste descriptions from wikisocion about the function in the base, creative, mobilising and suggestive position and talk about how I relate to them.
**coloured paragraphs are the descriptions of the functions, my impressions are in black**
Si
As a base function
“A strong ability to recognize internal physical states in themselves and others, to understand how these states are reached, and to recreate and avoid these physical states.
Individuals who possess Si as a base function are drawn to situations that satisfy their inner physical experience. Whenever Si base function individuals are taking part in something that involves recognizing, recreating, or analysing physical states, they feel a great deal of personal power and enthusiasm.”
LOL, well I know my internal states, I know when I’m hungry, tired and stuff like that, but I can really push it to the extreme. For example, I can be on youtube till 3:00 am in the morning when I have to wake up at 7:00 am, and the thing is, I know I need to sleep, but I’ll literally refuse to turn my laptop off, or I may need to pee, but I just cant be bothered to get up. Once I was so into a storytime video, I forgot/couldn’t be bothered to eat till it was 12:00am, Once I had a nasty headache and I had my light on full brightness while my laptop was on full brightness, I completely over looked the fact that was making my headache worse, another one for you, for like a month i was complaining about being super hot during the night and my mum said its because you're wearing socks to sleep, i didn't even realise
So yeah
“Feelings of internal discomfort can arise from a tense psychological atmosphere, working too hard and sapping the body's resources, being pressured by other people or by numerous "things to do," and from unsatiated or oversatiated physical needs. These types tend to quickly recognize and be quite vocal about discomfort that arises and either take clever measures to dissipate it or simply get out of whatever is bothering them.”
“Feelings of internal discomfort can arise from a tense psychological atmosphere”< I relate to that a lot. I've noticed when I have loads of things to do I go into beast mode and want to do It all and don’t even realise I’m subjecting myself to discomfort (not eating, sleeping or peeing) until days later and I have a nasty headache. While in the moment of that discomfort I’ll be very quiet about it and will shrug it off, or I wont realise it’s a discomfort and I’ll be hurting myself them my mum would say “you look like you’re in pain do you need help” then I’ll realise I’m going through a discomfort, but until after days I’ll become a big baby and start complaining about it when it isn't that deep any more.
Si leading types are constantly adjusting themselves to their environment (which includes the people around them), and rarely have any fixed ideas about what is "appropriate" to desire in a given situation. Thus they are willing to accommodate other people's needs in an ad hoc manner. It is enough for something to "feel right" for them to justify doing it. This behaviour may seem random to outside observers, since it is concomitant with weak Ni.
“adjusting themselves to their environment”, I don’t get this, adjusting in what way ? “"appropriate" to desire in a given situation.” I don’t get his either. “It is enough for something to "feel right" for them to justify doing it” This is going to sound contradictory, but, I “feel” like I do this a lot, but I can’t think of any examples…
My general impression of Si is very weak and complain-ey
As a creative function
The individual is attuned to people's tastes and personal preferences and likes to do things for or give things to friends and family members that will cause them to enjoy themselves and gain pleasure.
For example, taking them out to do something they enjoy, or finding opportunities and people with whom they can pursue their hobbies.
I thought it was normal to give your friends and family things they like, If I know my best friend jack likes to collect post cards, it wouldn't become my life goal to collect post cards for him, but if I went on holiday and saw a post card I’ll buy it for him becasue i know he likes them.
As a mobilising function.
The individual has difficulty producing pleasurable sensory experiences for others and for himself, but likes to talk about pleasure, enjoyment, and relaxation, hoping that someone nearby will take the hint and take the lead.
Well I don’t believe in hints, and subliminal messages, if you want something ask for it.
As a suggestive function
the individual tends to be chronically unaware of his own bodily processes, including physiological sensations and a sense of balance and alignment with one's true desires. He sometimes has peculiar preferences or tastes, which he himself is unable to understand or fulfill.
Umm, I don’t know, “a sense of balance and alignment” huh ? I do know I have very weird taste and a very weird way of eating things.
The individual almost never emphasizes his attractiveness or sexuality overtly and publicly, but dreams of being pleasing to the senses to at least a small circle of trusted friends and partners who are able to develop and enhance his sexuality and attractiveness in a trusting atmosphere.
I never have, nor do I think i ever will “dream of” that, that has not crossed my mind.
Ne
As a base function
The individual is skilled at generating intellectual interest and curiosity in others and using others' curiosity to get them to do things.
He easily sees parallels between different situations, areas of knowledge or skill, and people, and likes to establish contacts across different fields of knowledge and social groups, which allows him to be part of many things at once. He enjoys considering differing viewpoints and perspectives and seeing if they can be reconciled.
This is 110% me, I compare and see loads of similarities and difference between everything. I’ve always been an "everywhere" kind of person, I’ve always had friends everywhere, across loads of different social groups, that’s why I was known to be a gossiper in school because I was friends and new so much about other people in school. I have to admit I’m guilty of taking very controversial sides and opinions just to hear another view point, I also love to probe people to think in another viewpoint, I pretty much understand everything, I always "get" the point someone is trying to make and can always understand where everyone is coming from. I can see how everyone Is basically agreeing and disagreeing with each other. I’ve also noticed im "everywhere", in the sense that I have varying interests, I love psychology, but also really like ghetto reality TV, i enjoy celebrity gossip, but also like reading the dictionary, i'll be happy listening to heavy trap music, but at the same time have open another tab about the newest technologies and new patents apple has for their new phones. nobody could every say i was an arty kid, or the tech kid, or the cool kid, becasue i was and still am everywhere with very vast interests.
He enjoys the beginning stages of just about anything - new projects, acquiring new skills, experiencing new people and relationships. Preparing for and launching something new is seen as having greater value than the process of experiencing what one already has and finishing what one has begun. The concept of "finishing" seems foreign to him. Instead of taking care to finish things and tie up all loose ends, he tends to drop things when he can't handle them any longer or realize that he has neglected them for too long (this might be equally related to suggestive introverted sensing).
LOOOOOOOL, so basically that is my life, I love the “new” process of everything, especially the people and relationships, I like meeting new people because it’s a new adventure, its like a new toy. For me the thought alone is good enough, I can think up a whole new elaborate project, but by the time it comes to implementation and follow through is very hard for me, damn to even start is a struggle, I can drop everything if I can’t be bothered with it, then all of a sudden im back into that project.
As a creative function
the individual likes to apply his insight to specific situations, relating them to the bigger picture. He also enjoys discussing idealized circumstances or what could be rather than what is.
YES YES YES, nothing gets me more excited than imagining and “what if” ,i'm such a child, but let me be real, they get me so excited and I just cant help myself I do it with everyone, just thinking about it is getting me excited
Consequently, he usually has high standards, even unreasonably so, for those around him.
He does not pursue ideas or new opportunities merely for their own sake, but for their application to specific questions and issues that he feels are important.
This is another one where I feel like I have high standards for myself and others, but I cant think of any examples.
As a SUGGESTIVE function
He rarely emphasizes his talents, unique experience, or singularity publicly, but prefers to seem like "your average guy" so that others can relate to him easily. However, he is more open about his unique attributes in close personal relationships.
This is a tricky one, I’ve always wanted to be noticed and actually quite liked being noticed but the initial idea of it is really uncomfortable for me and I find it weird, generally though I don’t mind being acknowledged, when that happens I get a certain feeling of “YES that was really me!!”
He is sensitive about his talents and uniqueness because so often uniqueness creates distance between people rather than closeness. He dreams of having his uniqueness recognized, welcomed, and fostered by a close group, but "just in case" avoids emphasizing his uniqueness and talents in new or large group situations
As my confidence has grown, I’ve been able to tell people what im good at
Since he finds it difficult to identify what unique talents he has, this often results in a tendency to avoid setting long-term career goals.
I wouldn't say I avoid it, I greatly welcome it, its just that i'm really indecisive and kind of like something one minute then don’t like it the next.
Ti
As a BASE function
The individual views reality through the lens of logic, immediately recognizing the correctness and appropriateness of things and their proper place in reality and in his system of views and behaviour
. He freely makes logical assertions, often exaggerated, about new information and experience. He holds highest those rules to which exceptions do not exist, and is a habitual critic of people or things that don't follow a set of rules, whether they are those accepted by the community, or his own, or even the other person's. Although he is able to adopt others' rules, his own are always the last word, and these are subject to continual refinement.
Umm, so I hate when people don’t follow rules in a game, nothing annoys me more than that, I also get really annoyed when people don’t follow simple rules that make sense.
Often seen as "demanding", due to high standards.
Kinda.
As a CREATIVE function
“The individual easily generates logical systems and formulations to explain a set of phenomena that he has experienced or studied”.
I like to think I’m logical, I like to explain my experience through the lenses of logic…I think, tbh I’m not sure
As a MOBILISNG function.
The individual seeks clarity in his system of beliefs and understanding and enjoys entertaining new concepts and being included in philosophical discussions where new concepts and systems of thought are introduced.
I think I like listening to them, they’re interesting, but I don’t generally insert an opinion because I don’t want to sound dumb, also I tend to get bored after a while, however I do love to debate… anything
He is uncertain of the logical clarity backing his actions, and thus seeks external assistance in attaining a degree of reasonable competence in this realm. Structure is sought as more of a means to an end, a background guide to facilitate the growth of the individual's main goal.
This is another one, I like to think I follow logic in my life, but I cant think of any examples i dont think i pay that much attention to logical coherence on my decision and life, so I guess this is a no.
As a SUGGESTIVE function
The individual has great admiration for people with well-developed systems of views. He especially likes clear and concise explanations of concepts, rather than a lot of background information about them that is not directly pertinent.
That is everything me no need to elaborate on that. Nothing annoys me more than extra information here and there
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He wants his actions to make sense, and thus needs external assurance that the conceptual understanding behind them is correct. If he cannot find a source of certainty, he may become flustered and unable to act rationally at all.
I think im quite rational, especially when it comes to my own emotions especially, when im angry, I think through it rationally and understand why i'm angry and if its really necessary to be angry and stuff like that so I guess so.
Fe
As a BASE function
he individual is always in tune to the emotional flow surrounding him, and responds to it spontaneously and directly. He seeks out and creates activities where people are totally engaged in what they are doing. Something's value is directly tied to how much it arouses his or another's passion.
This is kind of what I was saying about Si, something becomes more valuable to you when you know it makes someone else happy, I know that jack likes postcards , so whenever I see postcards I pick it up for him, that has now become more valuable, so I guess yes, also everything yes about the emotional flow, i can literally see it and feel the feeling,lol.
He is highly proactive about steering the emotional flow in the direction he himself considers ideal to a given situation. He may, for example, try to cheer people with jokes if he sees that they are too gloomy or, conversely, to get people to be serious and concentrated if they are too carefree during a crisis situation. Nevertheless, he believes emotions should be expressed as honestly as possible.
Yesssssss, I do that all the time, I try my hardest to push people to the most appropriate thing, I think emotions should so be expressed truthfully, that’s why I hate people that don’t contribute and get involved in things because I think they’re holding back
As a CREATIVE function
The person is sensitive to the emotional atmosphere around him, either from an individual, or a group, or even from inanimate objects such as the landscape, the state of the physical environment he happens to be in, or his own emotional associations with the place or people around him
Yeah
A positive emotional atmosphere is essential for his sense of well being and inner peace, and he either tries to promote it himself by directly influencing it around him, or by simply moving away from the environment or the people causing a negative emotional environment in his view.
Im kinda good at diffusing negative emotional atmospheres, like in the base function, I just become very silly and soften the tension, however if I want to amp up the feeling I can do that, once some guy in my school got really bad grades and I didn't really like him, so I busted out laughing and said "well i'm sorry but you get what you deserved" and everyone started laughing.
Another thing I can do is bring someone in my enthusiasm, or join someone else's enthusiasm, then use that to get what i want, or i can deny someone the emotional response they want and bring down the emotional atmosphere which does annoy people.
Ni
As a BASE function
Ni generally manifests itself through a lack of direct attention to the world around oneself, and a sense of detachment or freedom from worldly affairs. This can lead to a highly developed imagination and very unique mental world, but it can also result in a great deal of laziness and apparent inactivity.
My internal world is my fave, I’ve been told i'm very lazy, my dad always has to point out that im not urgent enough
Because the individual gets his or her primary information about the world through imagination, a person with base [IMG]http://file/C:/Users/OLUWAT~1/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG] may be able to thrive in situations where data are scarce, or where he or she lacks the usual prerequisite experience. However, this may also become a disadvantage if the person ignores real data about the world too much.
I get annoyed when data is scares so that isn't me, I most definitely don’t ignore real life data, that’s why I live for
The ability to transcend the axis of time and understand the cause and effect relationships that occur is also a feature, sometimes resulting in the ability to accurately predict general future trends and outcomes of certain events.
I can do that, I generally like to think about it in my head and im usually right, then when it happens in real life I say “I knew it “ but nobody believes me
As a CREATIVE function
The individual likes to predict the further development of the situations and topics that he is interested in.
Mhm like I said before
The individual applies his highly developed sense of vision not as an end in itself, but as a way of promoting the development of his more central interests and activities
Um I guess.
As a MOBILISING function
The individual periodically needs an outside evaluation of how a situation is likely to develop in order to keep from worrying excessively.
I tend to ask even though I know what's going to happens, I guess I ask just for another perspective or to back up my initial prediction
Se
As a BASE function
The individual feels at home among people who are actively doing something and interacting with each other directly (visibly), and is able to organize people, move them around as necessary, and guide them in achieving a specific goal. He or she likes obedience and even subservience in others, since it allows him to "make things happen" more effectively.
LOL, im not that imposing, don’t really like obedience, I like people that challenge me,i think everyone should do what they want, so that’s a no
He is keenly aware of territorial conflicts and confrontational behavior occurring around him. He very quickly becomes confrontational when others try to make him move or get him to do something in an aggressive or confrontational way. He quickly recognizes when people are trying to get each other to do something or are trying to organize him for some purpose. He also spontaneously uses aggression to achieve his own goals.
No, I don’t generally look for confrontation, but only when i'm bored, then I’ll be very confrontational, but when its serious i'm really scared of it, but i wont show that i am, I’ll stand up to it. aggression to achieve my goals ? No.
He wants to make all decisions himself about what he will do, wear, eat, look like, etc., and resents any attempts by others to make these decisions for him. However, he is willing to make use of other peoples' ideas, advice, and creativity, as long as he plays the most visible role.
Lol I do like making my own decisions but I think its better when others make it for me because when have the opportunity to make my own decisions, i'm really indecisive and I waste time.
As a creative function
The individual does not generally seek out confrontation, but he is also not afraid of it.
mhm
He takes his responsibilities seriously and tends to perform them diligently and with care. He expects the same of others.
That is me ^^
As a mobilising function
The individual tends to feel capable of achieving his goals, but hesitates on whether the path he is choosing is the right one. In these cases he needs to feel the support of others in order to be motivated to finally choose.
That is me all in one. I need a lot of motivation to achieve something it requires constant prodding.
He likes to be involved in competitive and challenging endeavors and to see his will and personal power develop as he overcomes obstacles together with other people. However, he depends on others to provide the gusto and motivation for these endeavors.
This is all me, I love competition and very "us vs them" games, the feeling of a team fighting for success is so good, but yes as the last line mentions I need a to take the forefront in such situations
As a suggestive function
the individual is often characterized by his inertia. If left to his own devices, he may choose to do relatively little to interact with the outside world.
This is true to an extent, I can be very lazy and not do anything I my life
To this individual, life is often characterized by periods of stimulation. For him, however, true stimulation is often spontaneous, and interludes between periods of stimulation are often characterized by tedium, inertia, and apathy. He is often not very adept at finding new areas of interest, and may seek to continue to reproduce past experiences instead of moving on to new things. In order to break out of this cycle, he requires an outside stimulus of spontaneity and activity. With such a degree of spontaneity introduced into his life, the tedium and perceived meaninglessness is replaced by a constant state of activity in which he can experience new things and escape from the confines of his own mind.
Not me
He is additionally very indecisive. He may lack the ability to make important decisions, especially with regards to his own future. He may know what he wants to achieve out of life in a broad or long term sense, but will find it very difficult to set and finish the short term projects leading to it. In order to be able to act, he needs a tangible and definite stimulus from somebody well grounded in external reality and who has a clear picture of what must be done in a certain situation.
This it a lot like me, I relate a lot to this, I need constant pushing and motivation
Fi
As a base function
The individual sees reality primarily through static personal ethics and stable interpersonal bonds between individuals, including himself, where the status of such interpersonal bonds is determined by his personal ethics. The individual is very confident in evaluating the ethical or moral qualities, and their consistency, of other people. This makes the individual seem "judgemental" or "self-righteous" to people less so inclined
I feel like im not like this, but in reality I think I do that a lot, maybe secretly.
If he has difficulty in deciding the status of a personal relationship, he will take action to try to reach a conclusion but if that continues to elude him, he will regard the relationship as not worth it.
Um, I don’t think I’ll regard it as not worth it, I may just keep it as a side relationship even though I know it isn’t working out
His own sense of constancy in personal ethics and in his relationships with others is a very strong factor in his sense of self-worth.
no
Fi in this position implies the ability to almost instantly recognize whether someone is a friend or an enemy, whether they are demonstrating good will or ill will, and whether they are drawn to or repelled by the individual.
I think I do this by myself, but don’t tell people im thinking that, so this make seem fake or whatever, if im repelled by and individual It doesn’t change the fact I’ll still smile and talk with them
As a creative function
The individual is very adept at perceiving, establishing, and maintaining personal bonds between people. However, these bonds are often perceived as being situational and flexible rather than static. The individual is inclined to focus on establishing personal bonds with other people in the context of realizing or following perceptions from his base function.
The person easily creates a sense of closeness and kinship between people by expressing like and acceptance, but these sentiments are situational rather than an expression of permanent feelings. If the person's mood or external situation changes, he or she may "turn off" the feelings instantly, even forgetting whom they had created the feeling of kinship with.
Well I cant just cut someone of, or as the website puts it nicely “turn off” the relationship, that has been one of the hardest things to do, I’ve always said im to accepting I cant just cut someone out, however I can create closeness with a person when I actually like them, or when I need something
Te
as a base function
Extroverted logic as base function is manifested as a need to accumulate factual information, also from external sources such as books, second-hand information, etc, on matters of personal interest or of professional activity. This also gives these types confidence on being well-informed on the same matters, which enables them to enter arguments related to them with confidence on their knowledge, which may come across as arrogance to others.
I thought it was normal to collect information on subjects areas you’re interested in, I certainly do that, it isn’t a matter of confidence, but if that topic was to ever come up I know I’ll be ready to defend myself
Another manifestation is an evaluation of external reality - work activities, world events, finances, procedures, personal relationships, conversations - from the point of view of factual accuracy and "making sense" and efficiency. It leads to an inclination to be proactive in increasing the efficiency and reasonableness of the external world, as well as a sense of self-worth connected on being involved and productive in activities seen as useful, profitable, or that increase one's knowledge base. To give out information that the individual knows not to be factually accurate is disturbing and avoided as much as possible
Not always, if something needs to be done I cant be all about efficiency, but in general i'm quite lazy and don’t focus on efficiency, rather i'm a quite inefficient person, I do loads of silly mistakes and waste time and slip up on loads of things so I guess this doesn't describe me
As a creative function
It is manifested as a preference for factual accuracy over ideological consistency, and for objective, "harsh" communication over careful words that avoid a negative atmosphere.
I'm really harsh when im being funny or joking, or when im really into something and enjoy something,however it isn’t something I focus on or enjoy doing when im being serious, I quite like the thought of being harsh, but in reality i'm a very nice person until you get to know me then my hasher side comes out
A view of the external environment being efficient, reasonable, and making sense is essential to their well-being and sense of inner peace, but they do not feel a pressing need for being proactive or productive themselves in that area.
I like things to make sense and it really makes me happy, but if I cant do it then I just drop it and focus on something else.
As a mobilising function
The individual is keen on accumulating factual knowledge on subjects of personal interest and those that help him be more efficient and productive,
Isn’t that normal
but he's often unsure of his ability to find and select the correct information and is therefore attracted to people whom he sees as competent in that area and reassure him.
Im not sure, I haven’t observe that
As a suggestive function
The individual is attracted to people seen as knowledgeable, as well as truthful and willing to share that knowledge, in matters seen as interesting and useful to the individual towards achieving productivity and efficiency.
Um I like listening to knowledge when its in front of me
Reliable information rather than the finished analysis is what attracts the individual; facts and explanations, not answers limited to the conclusions. For the same reason, the individual avoids people who are inclined to give out unreliable or simply untruthful information.
I haven’t met anyone who likes to listen to unreliable information, or who enjoys listening to false information
The individual tends to neglect to think about the productivity of his actions and unconsciously relies on others to give him directions and advice about the best, most productive ways of doing things.
I directly ask for the best way to do things, no need to waste time doing that’s the wrong way, i'm sure there's a right way to do things even thought I may not be able to think of them myself
He has difficulties measuring how much work he has done, whether it is sufficient, and how much it is actually worth. The individual admires people who are aware of the productivity of their actions and are always trying to do something rational and worthwhile.
I don’t have this problem
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